flipklos, thanks! ill definitely keep that in mind.

billy12360, im with ya, i like em low. ill pm ya on pricing.

trav54, the 4-link came from my pal up in Canada "welderseries.com" DW tell him i recommended you to him (Yaril). well the kit is great and i have used it before and will use it again. it does the job. links are about 24" long and it comes with nice brackets. the notch is a kit from "suicidedoors.com" its 8 pieces that need welding together. this is another great quality place to get parts. they sell 4-links too but much much beefier. ive used there stuff too and depending your app you can decide what you'll need.

thanks!
Yaril