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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 07:13 PM
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Question Doing the exhaust

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My truck (76 f100 stepside 300 i6 4spd) is up for smog pretty soon it has no cat, one is required and rusted muffler. I wanted to get some EFI manifolds but it dosen't look like i will be able to get them in time. So in the mean time I'm going to the muffler shop have them put on 2 1/4 pipe from the manifold on back with the cat and muffler. I guess a new law went to effect out here CA saying only certain cats used narrowing my options even more, can't have no fun! cheapest cat that is legal I can find $230 any thing cheaper out there and what is a ball park estimate of of parts and labor? Any guesses are appreciated. Thanks
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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Get your parts and labor estimates from the muffler shop(s) since they are the ones you will be paying.
Cheaper Cats can be found at Summit Racing but whether they are CA approved or not and whether a muffler shop is willing to use the parts you carry in is something you have to determine with the shop.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 03:08 AM
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Most hi-flow cats are C.A.R.B. approved, and I know you can get one cheaper than $230 from the local auto parts store. Someone is trying to rape you out of some $$$. Summit lists one for ~$110 plus S&H. By the way, that law is not new in CA. You've just been lucky enough to stay under the radar. Unless things have changed, I think the only exemptions are for off-road only vehicles, even in CA. Last time I looked closely at their requirements, 1972 and up vehicles were required to have all emissions equipment installed at the factory present and in working order. That may have changed, I haven't looked at California requirements in about 6 years.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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The law changed on January 1st of this year. Good explanation here - [url=http://www.car-sound.com/04basics/04california.asp]
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 12:07 PM
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Not so sure if the price on the cat is off that much.

When I looked up the list for the '77 on SummitRacing, they had them from $50 up (The cat for my '81 cost me $60) until I unclicked 49 state legal and only had 50 state legal selected. Suddenly, the least expensive one was $220.

I don't know how CA inspection works, but the only way I think you're going to dodge that price is to have someone buy it for you and then personally ship it to CA. Pretty sure no company will even ship a non-CA cat to you.

Cat's are really easy to put on yourself. Just use an exhaust pipe cutter, remove the old one, and splice the new one in with some clamps (or weld it in if you have a welder.)
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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76f100guy - Appreicate sending the link it hepled my understanding of the law.

AbandonedBronco - Thanks for the input, don't feel like the auto parts guys are trying to get one over on me now, but the state of CA on the other hand that's another story. I'll look into splicing the new cat.
 
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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 76F100guy
The law changed on January 1st of this year. Good explanation here - California Catalytic Converter - MagnaFlow Catalytic Converters by Car Sound
Fixed the link up some for you.* That's only a change on the requirements of what converter you can have installed, not what years it applies to, or so it seems. I'll have to do some further looking at the actual vehicle code. I'm sure it's all part of Big Brother and the @#$%^&*! Clunker Law that is going to be Federally mandated here before too long.

*EDIT: Sometimes, I hate the defaults on this forum. I can't stand that it auto-parses junk advertisement links in what normally would be a nice clean link!
 
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