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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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I have a F350 that has a complet miss in # 8 cylinder with no compresion the rest of the engine has 410 to 420 psi don't if the blowby is to much or not. Engine is now on the floor. Haven't had time to take apart yet. Should I pull the left head or the injector thanks Jeff
 
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Old Apr 6, 2009 | 09:08 PM
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Welcome to FTE. The injector won't have much to do with compression unless it's so loose it's not seated. Are you running a chip or tuner? Any gauges to monitor things? I'd guess it's time to pull the drivers side head and take a look at what you can see.

If you don't mind me asking, what brought this on?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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I got the truck super cheep becuse of the miss the rest of it is very clean with new front brakes rotors & calipers . 10k on rebuilt trans. New tires alloy wheels nice truck just a bad motor. I thought it was hurt. I got a van engine with 95k on it to replace it with. Going to replace gaskets and O rings andexhaust gaskets
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Keep the Van turbo on the engine.

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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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the van turbo dosn't have a wastgate on it . Won't the comp wig out over this?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2009 | 10:09 PM
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Nope. Running the van turbo on our trucks is a nice performance bump when complimented with at least tuning, and preferably injectors as well. Lots of us run them on our trucks.

EDIT: You'll need a new exhaust adapter and non-EBPV pedestal (or mod your original one). Here's a link to the pics of my install:
http://good-times.webshots.com/album/568983570clGQjN
 
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Old Apr 8, 2009 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tracknut
I have a F350 that has a complet miss in # 8 cylinder with no compresion the rest of the engine has 410 to 420 psi don't if the blowby is to much or not. Engine is now on the floor. Haven't had time to take apart yet. Should I pull the left head or the injector thanks Jeff
Cylinder #8 is known to have more issues than the others. It could be a blown head gasket in #8...

Originally Posted by ernesteugene
...Keep in mind that cylinder #6 fires and then immediately cylinder #8 fires so that during the same 1/2 (180 deg) revolution of the crankshaft both rear cylinders on the driver's side bank are trying to lift the rear surface of the head from the block at nearly the same time!...
Or it could be a burned or holed #8 piston. Check out this thread... https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...-cylinder.html ...

Originally Posted by ernesteugene
Here's a "triple whammy effect" theory as to why cylinder #8 might be the most vulnerable to burnout.

1) Cylinder #'s 1, 2, 7, & 8 receive less air flow during their intake strokes than do cylinder #'s 3, 4, 5, & 6 due to the taper in the intake plenums. I've drawn this conclusion from my engine model, and from several reports on "dusted engines" which clearly showed that most of the dusting damage occurred in the center 4 cylinders. BTW, your #2 which shows some damage is also one of the outer 4 that receives less air flow!

2) Cylinder #'s 8 & 6 are in the process of filling at the same time, i.e., during the same 1/2 crankshaft revolution, and they both fill from the same intake plenum, and that means that #8 gets even less air flow than do the other outside cylinders.

3) Cylinder #8 has the injector with the fuel cackle issue, and it seems to me that this "water hammer" effect that causes the knocking noise from the #8 injector might mean that the ICP and therefore the fuel rate is a little higher for #8.

Combining the least amount of air flow with perhaps the most fuel would certainly make #8 the most problem prone! I'd sure like someone to start a pole (which I don't know how to do) and see if #8 has caused significantly more issues than a random sampling of 1/8 would suggest if all cylinders failed equally.
Originally Posted by Tenn01PSD350
The driver side is notoriously the hottest across the board on the 7.3. I have proven this out with my IR thermometer as have others, so this is pretty much fact as far as I am concerned.

It is also compounded by the fact that the rear most cylinder manifold tubes are the hottest. So the #8 starts out as a potential problem, and only gets worse with the firing order and what Gene spoke of with how the intake plenum lends itself to poor air flow to the outer cylinders. The front cylinders are only saved by the fact the exhaust goes back on the manifolds and carries that heat there.
 
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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if I keep the van turbo what or where do i get the parts to covert it to use on my truck? I'm doing the foil delete and ccv change . Will have a 6637 filter and zoodad cut done when I reinstall the engine. Guzzles O ring kit and cross over for hpop. Rechecking all bolts and gaskets before install. what other things should I check? This is my first PS to bring back to life. All help will be appreciated thanks Jeff
 
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Check out one of Guzzles Mod/Maintenance pages:

Welcome to BDrummonds Van Turbo Rebuild Web Page

You can get the exhaust flange from Beans Diesel Performance.

Beans Diesel Performance - 99-03 Power Stroke Van Turbo Adapter Flange (Powered by CubeCart)

It's a great upgrade to the stock turbo. Lower EGT's and handles the higher boost better.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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I got my turbo parts 'hpop crossover and i would like to find a fuel crossover for it while the engine is out I got the truck to haul my snocats north to more snow
 

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