EGR Delete On My '93 F150 5.0
#16
EGR removal and other emissions stuff
I am also removing a 1985 302 into an 54 F100 and want to know what stuff to remove from the carb/engine.
At the top of the picture is the EGR (I hope!) this can be unbolted and a blank off plate installed - right?.
Underneath the EGR is the main vacuum line from the manifold. Can I disconnect one of the smaller lines and block it off? and use the other one for the dizzy?
Underneath that is some other emissions junk - can I just unscrew them and block them off?
In the picture below that is the front of the carb. Can I block off the line at the top of the pict coming out of the carb? - there is also the same line at the back of the carb.
Underneath that line are two others. The one with the square head connector goes to one of the cylinder head cover breathers. Can I block that off and just use a vented cap in the cover?. What is the line next to it - can that be plugged as well?
Next picture is a Dashpot?? Thingy with wires coming out of it. Can I just leave it in place and not connect the wires?
Sorry about all the questions
Chris
At the top of the picture is the EGR (I hope!) this can be unbolted and a blank off plate installed - right?.
Underneath the EGR is the main vacuum line from the manifold. Can I disconnect one of the smaller lines and block it off? and use the other one for the dizzy?
Underneath that is some other emissions junk - can I just unscrew them and block them off?
In the picture below that is the front of the carb. Can I block off the line at the top of the pict coming out of the carb? - there is also the same line at the back of the carb.
Underneath that line are two others. The one with the square head connector goes to one of the cylinder head cover breathers. Can I block that off and just use a vented cap in the cover?. What is the line next to it - can that be plugged as well?
Next picture is a Dashpot?? Thingy with wires coming out of it. Can I just leave it in place and not connect the wires?
Sorry about all the questions
Chris
#17
I dont know what to tell you. The reason I am removeing the EGR is that its bad and its an 180 bill to replace. Why are you wanting to ditch it? If thiers senors and power to it you will need to put an elimator kit so the volts go to the computer so every thing works like its spose to. Sorry I am not much help!
#18
54,
I am putting the engine in with no computer attachments. I just want it naturally carburated. I am going to blank off the EGR and all the rest of the emission control stuff on the carb.
I downloaded a carb manual and found out that the 3/8" tubes that come out of the top front and back of the carb are for vapour release from the float chambers and are piped to the cylinder attached to the firewall. (your folgers can!).
Obviously these cannot be blocked off as they serve some purpose. I 'm not sure if we can just leave them open and blowing in the slipstream around the engine. If I had the cylinder I probably would pipe them in again.
Chris
I am putting the engine in with no computer attachments. I just want it naturally carburated. I am going to blank off the EGR and all the rest of the emission control stuff on the carb.
I downloaded a carb manual and found out that the 3/8" tubes that come out of the top front and back of the carb are for vapour release from the float chambers and are piped to the cylinder attached to the firewall. (your folgers can!).
Obviously these cannot be blocked off as they serve some purpose. I 'm not sure if we can just leave them open and blowing in the slipstream around the engine. If I had the cylinder I probably would pipe them in again.
Chris
#19
Ok the folgers can i was talking about is an vac ami or storage i don t know. Not vapor thiers an vapor line that gose from the gas tank vent to the intake. vea an carhacoal canster. (dont mind my spellig or lack their of) If your not useing an computer then just block off the plate and remove or just leave the power unpluged.
#20
Tom I am looking for some advise. I am doing an simlair project only its an 5.0 out of an 93 f 150 going in to an 54 f100. I have already removed the air pump and caped the line comeing out of the back of the heads. I don t under stand the tech words like purge canister; WOT relay, TAB and TAD. Can you give me direction I would also like to remove the EGR too So I don t need the black folgers can on the right side of the motor compt. Thanks for any help
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#22
I completely deleted ALL smog on my 302. I used an ebay billet block off plate, an ebay EGR simulator for a mustang (they use the same plug), and used 5/8 x 1" bolts for the back of the heads. I went with an 85.5 inch belt due to deleting my smog pump and using bbk underdrive pulleys. Also deleted all vacuum lines/electronics for smog and plugged the holes on the intake. Everything works great and no check engine light.
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#25
I completely deleted ALL smog on my 302. I used an ebay billet block off plate, an ebay EGR simulator for a mustang (they use the same plug), and used 5/8 x 1" bolts for the back of the heads. I went with an 85.5 inch belt due to deleting my smog pump and using bbk underdrive pulleys. Also deleted all vacuum lines/electronics for smog and plugged the holes on the intake. Everything works great and no check engine light.
Do you have a before/after picture of the engine bay so we can see how much of a difference all the smog equipment makes?
#26
Here's the after photo:
#27
I've already done the EGR/Thermact-ectomy on my '89 5.8 351W with a steel plate block-off on the EGR and have plugged all the various orifices. I'm still getting the 34 engine code, and I've forgotten how to figure out what value resistor to plug in.
I'm not scared of wiring in an in-line resistor; I'm just hazy on which resistor would do the job? The RIM/RTM (whoever) site sells 75 ohm 3 watters for the solenoids for 2 bucks and the dummy plug for $20. I'd rather spend 2 bucks...
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
I'm not scared of wiring in an in-line resistor; I'm just hazy on which resistor would do the job? The RIM/RTM (whoever) site sells 75 ohm 3 watters for the solenoids for 2 bucks and the dummy plug for $20. I'd rather spend 2 bucks...
Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance.
#28
I just did this on my 89 5.0
Only problem was the "header plug" wasn't right for my truck.
From what I read the exhaust gas was taken from the exhaust manifold in later years. On mine it comes from a connection on the intake manifold (PITA to get to) I ended up bending the EGR pipe over on itself to seal it as it was already broken.
Beyond that: The Plug in module and Block off plate work well.
It's nothing that can't be fabricated yourself... The plugin is just a circuit that sends the computer something like .5 - .8 volts showing that the EGR is closed.
I imagine the block off plate could be made by buying a new EGR gasket and tracing it onto a piece of metal, cutting it out and drilling a couple holes.
I ordered the parts from RJM, desipte being entirely unresponsive to be contacting them - they did send the parts.
Only problem was the "header plug" wasn't right for my truck.
From what I read the exhaust gas was taken from the exhaust manifold in later years. On mine it comes from a connection on the intake manifold (PITA to get to) I ended up bending the EGR pipe over on itself to seal it as it was already broken.
Beyond that: The Plug in module and Block off plate work well.
It's nothing that can't be fabricated yourself... The plugin is just a circuit that sends the computer something like .5 - .8 volts showing that the EGR is closed.
I imagine the block off plate could be made by buying a new EGR gasket and tracing it onto a piece of metal, cutting it out and drilling a couple holes.
I ordered the parts from RJM, desipte being entirely unresponsive to be contacting them - they did send the parts.
#29
Still showing code 33
Hey guys! the guy before me just chopped the wires that go into the vacuum canister (black can) and stopped using the EGR.
When I bought the truck there was no code until I disconnected the battery and the code showed up.
I have followed the steps above and I still can’t fix it.
any help will be appreciated.
When I bought the truck there was no code until I disconnected the battery and the code showed up.
I have followed the steps above and I still can’t fix it.
any help will be appreciated.
#30
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