The Titan went thru a styling and engineering upgrade in 2008, so it's hardly the oldest truck of the bunch.

One of the local network TV channels showed the video of the Ram getting hit (drivers side) by the dolly used in the crash tests.

btw: The Titan, Armada and Infiniti QX56 have recently been cancelled.

 

Many roads here in California go pretty much straight up, right over the top, such as US 50 near Lake Tahoe, I-5 (closed due to snow right now) north of LA, and SR 330, where I am. We are could get another three feet of snow from this storm.

Jim

 

Obviously that did not help it any as the IIHS shows the same rating for all years of the Titan (2004-2009).

IIHS-HLDI: Nissan Titan

Which truck do you consider the oldest?

I'm fairly certain that the Silverado and Ram received much more extensive engineering upgrades in their recent redesigns than the Titan underwent for 2008. The Silverado and the Ram were outperformed by the oldest truck, the Titan, that's the bottom line.

The next gen Titan, from what I've heard, is going to share platforms and many other components with the Ram. It'll be produced at Chrysler's truck plant in Mexico.

The next gen QX56 (I've heard rumors that it will be of unibody construction) will be built in Japan moving from Nissan's Canton, Mississippi plant in 2010 to make way for production of Nissan's new NV-series commercial vehicles.

As for the Armada. A next gen Armada has not been mentioned in any of Nissan's statements as has the QX56 And Titan.

There should be replacements for both the Titan and QX56, but it seems like the Armada is still up in lingo; Nissan hasn't confirmed much of anything.

Here's some articles regarding the Armada, QX56, and the Titan.

Nissan to End U.S. Production of Infiniti QX56, Nissan Quest and Nissan Titan

Next-Gen Quest, Infiniti QX56 to be Produced in Japan, Armada's Future Unclear | Motortrend News & Auto Blog - Wide Open Throttle

 

That was the original plan, but...

Considering the state of the economy, the fact that ChryCo is broke, that Nissan is laying off 10,000 of their workforce, and the fact that Titan sales have hit the toilet, why would Nissan have ChryCo build a truck that no one is buying?

Sales of Titan's were the highest in 2004, some 93,000 units. The original break even point was 100,000 units.

2005 sales figures were roughly 85,000 units, 65,000 units were sold in 2006.

Sales have declined steadly since, the 2008's sold roughly 40,000 units.

IMO, Titan is history, no one wants Armada's either, so it's also history.

You can blame Nissan's parent company for the death of the Titan, Armada and QX56.

Renault spent next to zero $$$ advertising the trio.

Read more about it on titantalk.com where I used to hang out before signing on here.

I'm a former Titan owner.

 

The articles that I got my information from are from early this month, so there're fairly recent. Do you have anything from Nissan that can confirm what your saying, or are you just speculating?

 

I respectfully disagree and sure you would if you lived in CO and commuted through the snow and CO Rockies more. My truck carries cargo and hauls a trailer at times. But winters here in parts of CO, most the time passenger cars, including Subaru's simply don't cut it due to lack of ground clearance. Sure the Denver Metro area isn't too bad most the time, but going to our vacation house in Salida during the winter a passenger car just doesn't cut it. Heck we got roughly 18" of snow yesterday in a matter of 4hrs and there were cars stranded all over. The trucks that were stuck were either 2WD or idiot drivers that were traveling to fast for conditions (ice and visibility of less than 2 blocks).

Agreed!

Sure there is. Drive carefully, cautiously and within reason. Take it easy on these steep crooked mtn roads. Too many people get comfortable and trust their driving skills too much, or they think simply because they have 4WD they are not impacted. Living in CO all my life and traveling on 2 lane highways exceeding 10K+ft elevation regularly, I have yet to be able to control my vehicle when I've hit ice, whether it's black ice or not.

 

I had My wifes Outback out on the lakes this winter. With a set of Blizzaks, it was going places most Trucks wouldn't. I ran 12 Miles out on Mille Lacs Lake thru 16-18" of snow. It was plowing it with the front skid plate. I never got stuck. And I was trying to.
5 Star crash rating, 26 MPG.
You don't need no stinkin truck to go in the snow.

 

16-18" is nothing. My rear-wheel-drive t-bird 4.6L would go through that with a decent set of A/S tires.

Try 3 feet.

 

Absolute best all around winter vehicle I ever had was an International Scout. Would go almost anywhere. Once took it up a pretty steep half mile ice slicked grade weaving my way thru tractor trailers, trucks and cars sitting at all angles all over the hill. Snow would stop it though, once it got piled up as high as the headlights......which was about waist high. Remember once bucking through a drift and having to back up several times, and seeing the grill & headlight print in the snow! Only problem was it turned into a real rust bucket within a couple of years.


“Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what is for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote” Benjamin Franklin

 

I know I stated the 18" snow, but like Krewat stated, 18" isn't much, well maybe for people used to city driving where roads are clear the majority of the time. No offense, the Outback and Subi's are nice, know a few people that have them. But there are many places here in CO mtns you just can't get to in the winter without a truck or SUV with good ground clearance.

 

Years ago we had 18"-20" of snow and we had to get to the shop. (blacktop parking lot) The one guy had a Suzuki Vitara little 4wd turd. The thing got a little more than 1 car length in and had to be pushed out. The SD and Bronco went right through. Some of the mountain roads have crowns and ruts so deep a Subaru would bottom out or high center in no time. Subaru has a good AWD setup which helps a lot. I'm shure not paying the money Subaru wants for a little turd car that costs a fortune to repair. In order for a Subaru to go through 18" of snow it must have been fresh powder. Try going through even 10" of good and heavy wet sticky snow, light powder can easily be pushed.

 

I think SOME peeps just need to justify their having a big ole gas hog of a truck.

Generally speaking, most people don't need a truck. They prefer them. They could get by with something like a 'turd'.
By the way, go look up dependability ratings. See where Suby stands. Also, during these hard economic times, they're the only car company holding their own. I wonder how a 'turd' does that?

If You get more than 18" of snow, usually the HP will shut the roads, or advise no travel.
We all know when winter is coming and are prepared to spend a day or 3 socked in.

 

By and large I agree...all those 4X4's in the inner city ...do they really expect to get to work in 8" of snow before the DOT clears the highway? Like Baltimore & DC which gets a "significant" snowfall about twice a year! Yet there are a lot of top of the line 4X4's running the highways, many diesels, all waxed and polished real purdy.

Me, I could probably get by without one, but.......
See my post in this thread to see why it's handy...

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7338560



News Flash: - the inmates really are running the asylum.

 

You're in Minn and the HP closes the roads for 18" of snow? Interesting, cause only if it's extremely cold (ice build up), extremely decreased visibility and windy will the CO HP close the highways. They do put the chain law into effect for the mountains, but that's about it. They did close the roads last Thrusday for only 18", but this was do to blizzard conditions which included all of the above issues mentioned. But it's rare they actually close the roadways. Here in CO tourism relies on skiers a lot, so it would be unwise to close the highways unless it's severe.

 

Actually, I've never seen the HP close roads here in Mn.
I DO see them closing roads in the mountains, quite frequently, during the winter.

All's I'm saying is You don't NEED a big ole 4X4 truck to drive safely in the winter. Some peeps seem to need to justify their decision in buying a less than perfect daily driven vehicle.
I like the Suby 'turd' It gets close to 30 MPG, has sufficient 4X4 capabilities to get most jobs done, and is 5 Star Crash rated. It actually has more overall ground clearance than most truck differentials. Whats not to like about that?

I own 3 trucks to work. And work they do.