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Old 01-25-2009, 12:43 PM
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Not bad, Dodge.

There are two new Cummins diesels coming out for 2010 Dodges. A 4.2 V6 and a 5.6 V8. New Cummins V6 and V8 engines - Engine Performance - Diesel Power Magazine 5.6 will be the one going into 1/2 ton Rams while the 4.2 will be offered in SUVs and the Dakota. Of course the 6.7 I6 Cummins will still be offered in the 2500 and up Rams and will still be the torque king.Not bad,Dodge,not bad.
 
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Any specs available?
 
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lol, after all nothing beats a 4.2L ford, 256ci, thoses motors go forever. Dodge should kiss my ***.
 
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lol, after all nothing beats a 4.2L ford, 256ci, thoses motors go forever. Dodge should kiss my ***.
I havent posted for months, then I finally do and you spew crap like that instead of trying to give me some sort of answer. How the hell have you not been banned yet?I could go out of my way to tell you that I can think of a dozen motors off the top of my head that would blow your 4.2 hunk of crap out of the water but I'm going to refrain as I know it wouldnt do any good.
 
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy6969
I havent posted for months, then I finally do and you spew crap like that instead of trying to give me some sort of answer. How the hell have you not been banned yet?I could go out of my way to tell you that I can think of a dozen motors off the top of my head that would blow your 4.2 hunk of crap out of the water but I'm going to refrain as I know it wouldnt do any good.

Just ignore him.

On another note, a guy at work just bought an 09 Ram and it's sharp as heck. Dodge definitely improved thier quality on this model.

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Old 01-28-2009, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy6969
I havent posted for months, then I finally do and you spew crap like that instead of trying to give me some sort of answer. How the hell have you not been banned yet?I could go out of my way to tell you that I can think of a dozen motors off the top of my head that would blow your 4.2 hunk of crap out of the water but I'm going to refrain as I know it wouldnt do any good.
Thanks for showing self restraint. Every forum has it's peanut gallery. It's good to have you back.
 
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I can respect smaller diesel engines in a pickup! Im a diesel guy and would love it if ford threw some smaller diesels in their half ton line up!

I have a differing opinion of the dodge looks though haha. I think they look ugly, and the front end looks like it just ran into another vehicle!

To each his own on the looks though
 
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Old 01-29-2009, 01:10 PM
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I'm was never a Dodge guy but I think the new 09' Ram looks pretty sharp. The cutouts in the bumpers for the dual tips is a nice touch. Looks so much better than the Chevys and GMC and is better looking in many aspects than the new 09' 150 IMO.

Hopefully they don't offer the 09' Dodge in the Daytona package with the wing, those have to be one of the queerest trucks on the road and I'm tired of seeing them.

I wonder why the new engines are not inlines? Maybe because they wanted more HP and less torque?
 
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I wonder why the new engines are not inlines? Maybe because they wanted more HP and less torque?
Nothing having to do with the output.

Manufacturers have moved to V-configuration engines because they're smaller in exterior dimensions (thus "packaging" easier -- lower, shorter hoodlines) and because torsional vibrations in long cranks are absolute hell to control.

V-engines can also be made lighter than inline engines of the same displacement.

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Nothing having to do with the output.

Manufacturers have moved to V-configuration engines because they're smaller in exterior dimensions (thus "packaging" easier -- lower, shorter hoodlines) and because torsional vibrations in long cranks are absolute hell to control.

V-engines can also be made lighter than inline engines of the same displacement.

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I heard that it also had a lot to do with crash worthyness as the longer engine would tend to be driven back farther in an accident.
 
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The new Dodges are sweet looking! The 6.7 is a inline 6? Never knew that. Why havent the big three put more tech into that configuration? My fathers 300 I6 fan forever and I hear chevy and dodges do/did too.
 
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I think the bulletproof reliability comes from the lower RPM's and HP ratings. Class 8 diesel engins commonly run under 2000-2200 rpms and most of them run 900,000 miles and more before rebuilding. Even a 5.9 Cummins runs into reliability issues when the power envelope is pushed. Supposedly Ford opted for the V-8 diesel to get a wider usefull RPM range, the Cummins inline will probably still pull harder when the trucks are the same year.
 
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I think the bulletproof reliability comes from the lower RPM's and HP ratings. Class 8 diesel engins commonly run under 2000-2200 rpms and most of them run 900,000 miles and more before rebuilding. Even a 5.9 Cummins runs into reliability issues when the power envelope is pushed. Supposedly Ford opted for the V-8 diesel to get a wider usefull RPM range, the Cummins inline will probably still pull harder when the trucks are the same year.
Thats basically what I've noticed. The I6 cummins was always a more torque oriented motor that didn't spin up rpm too far. (5.9l) The V8 configurations like the 6.0l, 6.4l and 6.6l Duramax will spin about 1k rpm more than the 5.9l. Of course if the Cummins is modded good it will spin far more rpm but it appears to me like manufacturers in the light truck market are trying to get diesels to have an rpm range similar to gassers of similar displacements.
 
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Wow, so now are all of the people that swore by the Cummins just because it was an inline 6 going to change their tune?
Seems they may have learned a thing or two if they are going to start making V configuration blocks...
It's about time someone offered a diesel in a half-ton, too bad it's Dodge. They had to do something, though, they still may not make it through the year as a company. Maybe Ford will follow suit and bring us a 1/2 ton diesel.
 
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The fact that the CTD is an I6 is more of a perk than a reason to love it. Most people swear by the CTD because it owns the PSD and DMAX.

You do bring up an interesting point though... with all the success of 5.9 I6, why would Dodge go to the V config? The only thing I can think of would be because the guys driving the smaller pickups wouldnt need all the low end tq, provided by the inline design.
 


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