Well speaking from experience with the international engines that ford has been using i have been wondering about thier new Ford built diesel engine. I kind of came up with a theory the other day... If Ford hasn't made a genuine ford diesel engine in years and has been using International engines wont they kinda have lost touch after a while? I mean if you picture it the Ford diesel engineers have been sitting back for a while. my guess is that the 6.7 liter scorpion might be as bad or worse then the 6.0 liter engine. just a thought for you guy that are excited about the new 6.7. i dont mean to burst your bubble.

 

That might be true if Ford were the sole engineers on this project, but they're not.

 

Yeah, but they've also had the ability to stand back and take a look at what works such as the 6.9/7.3 idi's and the 7.3 PS's. They can see why those motors lasted so long, and why the 6.0 has been a little demon child.

 

Agreed 100%. They have had 25 years to see what works and what doesnt and i bet it will be a good motor.

 

I actually think it will be a good motor, the international / ford relationship wasnt working unfortunatly, they kept tryiing to point fingers at each other and just werent getting anywhere. My only problem with this 6.7 is that its being built in Mexico.... Thats the only thing that worries me.

 

That part makes me sad as well, but I would rather it be built in Mexico than China, because I like senioritas more than I like the (dunno the chinese word for chicks). But if I remember weren't some of the 300 I6's built in Mexico?? Man if only they would bring back the 300 and turn it into a diesel and offer it in the F150, man I would be happy.

 

Thats all really good points i guess i havent thought of it that way. I guess i just want to see something good come out of Ford rather then something we have already seen. I thought it would have been a ford exclusive project? who else is working with them?

 

Doesn't Ford have a stake in Peugeot? They've got some strong diesel stuff over in Europe. Could be that the 6.7 is going to be a grown up engine based on the diesels in the Land Rover?

 

That is the rumor right now with who is helping them design it

 

I dont know why I check the news, I should just come here. I was going to post this article. no need. I love this site.

 

Do anybody knows if Volvo commercial trucks is part of Ford? Sorry mebe a dumd question. If so i reckon they should have good experience available. Also the Euro arm has long been building Diesels not only fer the Ranger but the Transit van to. I'd like to beleive theyd be in good shape. Besides the engine is supposed to be used in 2011? That should give lots of time for testing

 

Volvo truck is its own separate entity. Ford only has Volvo cars. All of Fords diesel "partner" development is done with Rover and Peugeot...

 

New motors will be in trucks beginning of 2010, just out as 2011 trucks like they did in 07 with the 08's

 

From my experience with friends (as I haven't been able to afford one of these "new" trucks, ha ha) the International Navistar trumps the Ford Diesel 10 to 1, and I'm not saying that cause I'm an international man (I believe the Company half died when they stopped making light duty trucks, and when they sold their farm equipment line to Case) but because out of the 5 or so people who have 2000s F-250/350s, the ones with the Ford built engines (2003-?) have experienced a ton more problem, and one guy's engine even blew up on him!

I have heard from several ford men not to buy a ford diesel, and they haven't got their act together yet.

 

Harvester, International makes the 7.3, the 6.0, and the 6.4. The diesel engines you are referring to from 2003-2007 is the 6.0 made by International. That is the main reason for Ford dumping International. The warranty costs are extremely high on the 6.0 and Ford feels that International should absorb a portion of those costs since its an International engine that is breaking. Since they cant come to terms on it Ford decided to go their own way.

Ford had options to go with other diesel companies. The whole reason they kept it internal is cost. Ford realizes that their entire existence in the diesel world is on the line with this engine. No more pointing fingers now so I suspect its going to be a pretty good engine. Question on my mind is how the new engines will perform with the 2010 emmissions laws.