I saw a superior Dodge option....
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#32
Moonlighting as a truck theif? Just kidding. Or am I? All truck manufacturers try to one-up the other with either horsepower or options. This is just Dodge's next ante. Like the tailgate step on the Super Duties and now the 150. Don't like a trucks features? Don't buy it. Some guys like the individual options. Only Chevy seems to be behind on both the horsepower and features game. Dodge stomps Chev on the horsepower (half ton trucks) and Ford and Dodge out-feature Chevy. Whats real funny is how Chevy's commercials make fun of these features and seem to brag how Chevy is nothing more than a truck with a V-8 and a cargo bed that gets one mile per gallon better economy. Thats what makes me laugh.
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I would not call the Ram Box and Ford's taligate steps features.....I call them gimmicks to sell vehicles. They may be functional but do nothing to sway me over to them when I need a truck, may work for others though.
#34
It makes 83 more HP and 27 more ft lb TQ than its Ford counterpart. If you maintain that Ford cant be beaten in any category ever, how do explain the 5.4 getting out worked by pretty much every equivalent engine on the market?
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When towing though I thought the Ford didn't do too bad considering its heavier and doesn't have the power the competition does.
#38
Just think how good they would do if they would just up the HP and TQ so they are at least competitive.
If you are towing something very small.
Oh and I am just going to ignore the fact you think your 4.2 will outwork my HEMI. And before you flame me for being a Dodge owner on a Ford site I'd like you to know this is the first time in my vehicle owning life I havent had a Ford, and am looking to get back into an F-250 V10 soon.
You guys arent reading my posts, I didnt say the Ford truck in general got out worked all the time, I said the 5.4 got out worked. Why does it get outworked? Because it has inexplicably low HP and TQ #'s. Everybody here knows that 5.4's are capable of shelling out a TON of power so why are they so freaking weak as a stock motor?
If you are towing something very small.
Oh and I am just going to ignore the fact you think your 4.2 will outwork my HEMI. And before you flame me for being a Dodge owner on a Ford site I'd like you to know this is the first time in my vehicle owning life I havent had a Ford, and am looking to get back into an F-250 V10 soon.
You guys arent reading my posts, I didnt say the Ford truck in general got out worked all the time, I said the 5.4 got out worked. Why does it get outworked? Because it has inexplicably low HP and TQ #'s. Everybody here knows that 5.4's are capable of shelling out a TON of power so why are they so freaking weak as a stock motor?
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#39
Chevy currently has the most powerful engine in the 1/2ton line-up out of all the major manufacturers including Ford. Ford actually has the least powerful engine of the class.
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#40
yeah i understand what your saying man, but they still do well, and are the same on fuel...or better, how is the 5.4 weak, its proven good in a SuperDuty....may I also add my 4.2L does quiete well towing 7000+, I have hauled cars to the wreckers on a fuel light before...and never runs out, get me as far as i need it to....I have also moveda 15,000 pound backhoe with my 4.2L Ford.
#41
Running the higher octane E85 the 5.4l puts out 320hp and 390tq.
You guys arent reading my posts, I didnt say the Ford truck in general got out worked all the time, I said the 5.4 got out worked. Why does it get outworked? Because it has inexplicably low HP and TQ #'s.
Everybody here knows that 5.4's are capable of shelling out a TON of power so why are they so freaking weak as a stock motor?
#42
The 5.4 is weak, relatively speaking. Comparing it to the 5.4 of 10 years ago it is a monster, but comparing it to its current competitors it doesnt/never has had anywhere close to an edge up.
So do alot of old Cadillac cars and sub 1/2 ton pickups.
I wouldnt recomend doing that very often, or you will be looking for a replacement for your truck.
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my F350, and my nephews F250 will roast the tires off of the truck from a dead dig on a traffic light. and they are both stock 5.4 automatic trans trucks. the F250 has 3.73 gears, and my F350 has 4.10 gears.
and the 3 F350 4X2's we have in work are the same way. if you don't pay attention to what you are doing, you will put the tires up in smoke at a light.
#44
Just about any truck could surprise the owner towing a heavy load if they've ignored the tow ratings. When I brought my '78 150 home it was on a tandem-axle car hauler that I borrowed from a friend. The Dakota pulled it like it hardly noticed it even though I'm sure that was well over its rating(anyone know what a car trailer and '70's pickup weigh off hand?) The only problem was that the trailer didn't have those fancy stands in the back to support the weight of the truck going up the ramp, the rear end of the Dakota came off the ground! When someone loads a light duty truck with that much weight they're also taxing the trucks braking system unless they have a trailer with brakes and a controler. I didn't, and I'm not sure I would have liked finding out what happens when a compact truck hauling a full size has to stop PDQ...
#45
you must have gotten a bad one then.
my F350, and my nephews F250 will roast the tires off of the truck from a dead dig on a traffic light. and they are both stock 5.4 automatic trans trucks. the F250 has 3.73 gears, and my F350 has 4.10 gears.
and the 3 F350 4X2's we have in work are the same way. if you don't pay attention to what you are doing, you will put the tires up in smoke at a light.
my F350, and my nephews F250 will roast the tires off of the truck from a dead dig on a traffic light. and they are both stock 5.4 automatic trans trucks. the F250 has 3.73 gears, and my F350 has 4.10 gears.
and the 3 F350 4X2's we have in work are the same way. if you don't pay attention to what you are doing, you will put the tires up in smoke at a light.