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Old 12-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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If you still have a fuel problem you might want to drop your fuel tank and clean the pickup towers in the tank. I had that problem twice as I never did the mod that eliminates them.
My symptom was lose of power and it would die, the first thing you think of is fuel filter and then you think gelled fuel.
Here is a picture of the little things. One has been somewhat cleaned and the other is dirty. To clean these use some kind of fuel conditioner in a cup that seems to work good.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...id=121859&.jpg
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:45 PM
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Make sure you keep an eye on that and keep it topped off. Remember the injectors fire off the oil...
 
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Check the fuel bowl heater fuse. I forget which one it is on the 02's. I know that it was not the original issue but it may be contributing to the problem now.
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinford
OK Somethings fishy................
I have 3 pieces after I take the nut off.
The nut ,round barrel looking thing and a gold piece that goes on the end of the barrel.
One end of the barrel thing is metal and the other end is black plastic.
Does the plastic end or the metal end go in first when putting it back together?
After its together properley do the wires point towards the back of the truck or towards the front of the truck?
Yes, just like the picture.

Originally Posted by Vinford
The pictures in page 5 look like the wires point towards the back of the truck when its installed?

Page # 5 Post # 67
Again, yes.
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This post makes it sound as if that soliniod has to be in a certian spot?
No, just make it easy for you to get to.

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Its gone down since last time I filled it up.
Its down about 1 inch now.
One inch from the top is about right.

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Check the fuel bowl heater fuse. I forget which one it is on the 02's. I know that it was not the original issue but it may be contributing to the problem now.
If he's getting smoke then he's getting fuel. fuel pump is on the same fuse. I don't see a fuse labeled for the heater, but #40 is for the pump.
Try unplugging the ICP and see if that will allow it to crank.
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:29 PM
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And the ICP is the one up on top on the drivers side front head?
If so ive tryed it unplugged and it makes no diffrence.
 
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Yep, that's the ICP. I think he next step would be to change out or maybe try to remove and rebuild the ICP. I tried the rebuild but didn't work for me. Wound up replacing it. When mine failed, the only way I could start mine was to hold the pedal to the floor while cranking. Don't know what it did, but it would start. Still ran like crap but started.
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:40 PM
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Think I shoulfd buy a new IPR ?
It should run even if it is the ICP shouldnt it?
It will start with the ICP unplugged wont it?
 
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Vinford
My internets been down because of the storm.
Ive got 2 codes P1280
P1212
Does anyone know what that means?
I had a young guy with a scanner give me them but thats all he knew!
It seems to have developed another problem also it wont turn over.
I had that problem once before and it started working again.
It just clicks when you try to start it.
I think its the adjustment on the saftey switch?
ANy way to unhook it?
Those codes point towards a bad ICP. Unplugging on don't always help, but should allow it to default to a safe start.

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*** UPDATE****
The nut was off the (ICP?) and it was sitting loose on there.
The mechanic took it right off and is now not sure how it goes back on?
He put it back how he thought it should go but the truck still doesnt start?
I saw a picture somewhere on here how it went ?
Ive looked for the picture and cant find it,
Anyone know how this thing goes back on?
That piece from Ford is $500+ ?
Maybe it being off could have caused damage to the IPR.

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Either that, or if necessary just rebuild yours. New Page 0
This rebuild method has worked for some, just not me.
Try holding the pedal down while cranking, just for my satisfaction. Like I said, it was the only way I could start mine. Something about the PCM demanding more oil pressure and fooling the IPR..

And to answer you question, with all you've been through, the IPR would be MY next choice and maybe the ICP as well.
 
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:19 PM
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Ive got a IPR and a CPS coming and hopefully the MFB keeps coming.
 
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:37 PM
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Something to do while you wait for UPS. The gold barrel thing is a solenoid, i.e. a coil of wire. Typically solenoids go bad by shorting out. Ohm that puppy. If it is open, then it is shot. As for the positioning, the positon that counts is how far up or down the shaft the solenoid is, rotation position won't matter. The IPR is acutally a servo valve of sorts, not a sensor. Crazy theory - nut falls off, solenoid slides off, computer demands max pwr to solenoid to no affect. Burns out solenoid as it no longer has a heat sink when detached....?

Also, the truck will start up just fine with the ICP unplugged, there is a deafult pressure table on the computer for just such a failure. The truck can be driven safely with the ICP unplugged.

Hope it works out soon for you.
 
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:05 PM
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Do you OHM it off or on?
 
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Doesn't matter. IIRC it is a two wire connector.
 
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Well after waiting almost a month for my IPR I put it on , and the truck still wont start.
New CPS.
New IPR.
Unplugged the ICP.
Checked oil in HPOP and engine both are fine.
Have had the battery charger on and the truck is in a warm shop.
Lots of fuel coming out of the fuel bowl when I open up the bleeder.

What next?
What fuses or relays could it be?
Im going to reread this whole thread and see if Ive missed something.
 
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:02 PM
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Are you getting the Wait to Start light?
I may have asked you that back when this started but I don't remember.
 
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Old 01-08-2009, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by cgl
It may sound silly, but has anyone suggested checking the Relays? I know if you pull the Injector Driver relay, the truck will crank without firing. Perhaps one failed while she was driving, resulting in your current situation...
How do you check the relays?
And which ones to check?
 


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