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Old 11-20-2008, 08:09 PM
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TUNE YOUR OWN 7.3L - Power Hungry Performance

Hello, hello!

We are so pleased to announce that in December, Power Hungry Performance will be offering an exciting new package to our 7.3L customers! Have you ever wondered how the pros tune your trucks? Well, now you'll find out, and you'll be able to do it yourself!

For far less than a custom chip -- about the same price as a custom 6-position chip -- you will receive a 6-position chip, a chip burner, custom files written specifically for your truck (including some of the cool ones like SmokeShow, Fuel Sipper, High Idle and Whisper Mode!), a CD with the software we use, and a comprehensive manual. You can use the tunes we provide, tweak them to your liking, or create your own!

A quick note... for those of you who originally purchased our DP-Tuner Software (as in DIESEL POWER TUNER Software) from us when we owned DIESEL POWER from 2001-2005, we will gladly update your software to the latest fully-licensed version, which is called Minotaur. We will only charge a small fee for the update; the latest version will be able to support all the current definition files from our library and is also compatible with the Romulator brand emulation device.

Just so there is no confusion, PHP is not affiliated with the company called DP-Tuner.

Please call or e-mail with questions!

Be sure to check out our website in December for this special package and pricing!

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Old 11-20-2008, 10:12 PM
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so, i'll be able to retune it myself???
send Pm with prices please...
can i save any by going with a 2 or 3 pos chip?
thanks, Dan
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:14 PM
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Hey all...

I'm going to try to get as many questions answered as possible, but if I should have missed one or two let me know. I also want to try to provide some insight as to what our goals are and what we hope to see accomplished with providing all you 7.3L guys the ability to tune your own vehicles.

First, I want to make absolutely clear that if you are interested in purchasing this type of package and you have any concerns or are in any way uncertain of your ability to safely tune your vehicle, then this is not the option for you. As with most tuning software packages, there is a large degree of flexibility in which it is entirely possible (and actually not too difficult) to manipulate the data enough to cause major engine damage, transmission damage, or other drivetrain related failures. This is a risk that must be considered and if you aren't willing to take that risk then you may decide to consider other alternatives. There are certainly enough qualified individuals in this industry that would be more than happy to provide you with custom tuning for your Power Stroke. Okay, now weíve got that out of the way. Letís move on to more interesting things.

As most people know, Iíve been tuning the PSD for about 12 years now and in that time I have seen A LOT of changes in this industry. From a tuning standpoint, automotive engine management systems have increased significantly in complexity, especially over the last few years. When you look at where the industry was when I started at Superchips all those years ago, youíd be amazed that we ever got these things running the way we did. At that time, 3D graphical tuning didnít even exist and we had to tune in hexadecimal using some of the most archaic software you could ever imagine. (Click the links to compare the same ICP tables from a PMT1 program) Not to mention the fact that we had nothing to go off of back then. It was all new to us. Nowadays everyone looks at everyone elseís tuning in order to figure out who is doing what for this mod or that mod, but back then we had to figure it out for ourselves. In fact, much of the tuning available today is based in no small part on the tuning we did at Superchips back in the 90ís and it really hasnít changed all that much over the years. Fortunately, development tools have managed to keep pace with the automotive manufacturers and today there are more tuning options for the 7.3L than you can shake a stick at. The argument is that much of the 7.3L stuff is usually quite overpriced and just doesn't offer the flexibility that some of the more serious enthusiasts need. Well, that's going to change.

Now, the reason for the brief history lesson is to give you an idea why the 7.3L performance community has always suffered and lagged behind the Cummins and Duramax communities. One thing that I have always griped about is the fact that the 7.3L guys always seemed to have this sort of "Secret Squirrel" club mentality when it came to sharing modification information, ESPECIALLY when it came to tuning. Sure there were the "Zoodad" modifications, Regulator Fuel Systems and all that business, but when it came down to what was really going on under the hood most guys would button right up. In all honesty, I too was very secretive when it came to tuning. Not so much WHAT I was doing, but more about HOW I was doing it. Of course after years of having companies copying the files that I and a few other engineers at Superchips had spent years developing, it always left me a little bitter about the whole thing. Besides, I had to make a living too, right? Well, here we are years later and it's time to finally put all that foolishness to bed.

There are plenty of competent folks out there who can handle tuning their own trucks. I know because I've talked with many of them over the years. Folks that would call me up and say they needed a little more fuel here or a little less timing there. They know what they needed, but just didn't have the means to make the changes themselves. What was always disappointing was to see these individuals throw away hundreds or even thousands of dollars getting their vehicles custom tuned when they could have handled it by themselves. Even worse is the fact that even the "custom tuners" sometimes have problems and years of experience doesn't always mean you won't break something. Tuning isn't something you rush through in an afternoon, but when you're spending $75, $100, $150 or more an hour sometimes things get rushed. Heck, I blew up one of Casey and Zane's first engines with twins (cracked a cylinder). It happens to the best of us. Incidentally, that stupid thing crushed my perfect record of zero engine failures. Thanks Zane!

So the purpose of the package is to have a way for people to make small tuning changes and do it at their own pace. This way they can tweak one modification at a time and determine what modifications are really working and which ones are junk. It can also help eliminate drivability problems resulting from certain modifications such as Dual HPOPs and B-Codes. You'll no longer have to wait for hours or days for your new files only to find out that they still aren't quite right. Plus, you'll have everything you need to reprogram your chip so if you do need a custom file made, it can be e-mailed to you and you've instantly got a new file to work with. Think of the savings in shipping!

Here's a brief rundown of what we are offering in the package:

A TS Performance chip burner and 6 position chip
A full licensed version of our Minoutar software (Yes, it is PCMX based in case you're wondering)
1 Definition File to cover the desired vehicle.
A variety of pre-tuned files including:

Stock (Gotta have that one)
Extreme Performance
Idle-Rite (High-Idle)
Whisper Mode (for those drive-thru occasions)
Shift-Kit (for you BTS and John Wood transmission owners)
Max-Shift (VDH/PMT Hybrid)

Additional binary files are available although some might require an additional charge. Also, additional definition files will be available for an additional charge.

The definition files we provide are pretty well populated and we will not be blocking access to any of the functions, maps or parameters, although they will be encrypted and are not editable. You will be able to create your own definition files of which you will be free to share with whomever you desire. Any original binaries we provide with the software will not be encrypted but they are copyrighted and are for personal use only. However, any binary files that are generated (even those from our base files) are considered individual works and you are free to do with them as you wish. The binaries are pre-formatted to 224K (the TS format) and the definition files are addressed to work with them. If you need different file formats, call us and we can arrange something for you.

If you already have *BOTH* a TS Performance burner and chip, we are considering offering a price adjusted "software only" package. If you just have a TS chip, then you'll need to purchase the whole kit including a new chip. This has to do with the fact that the burner we sell has our own specific dealer code and it is not compatible with chips purchased through other dealers. Please call or check the website for more details and pricing.

The instruction manual will be as detailed as time permits, but I want to be absolutely clear that at this particular time I am not in the business of teaching tuning classes. If that's what you really need, call SCT, purchase their Advantage software (which is pretty nice, to be honest) and they will be happy to have you fly down to Florida and give you a two day training session on how to tune your vehicle (for a fee of course). I will be more than happy to offer advice on what tables or function you may need to look at in order to tune for a specific modification such as B-Codes, Twins, HPOPs, etc. but I will not be able to get into any great detail about how much to add or subtract and what areas to modify. If there is enough interest, I would definitely consider offering a training session (for a fee, of course) but there would have to be enough people to make it worthwhile to close down for 3 days.

One thing that I will say is that you can learn a great deal by comparing the modified files against the original files. This is the easiest way to get a good idea of what to change and how much to change it in order to achieve certain performance characteristics. When making your own files, make 1 or 2 small changes at a time and then see how they work. Work on 1 table or function until you've exhausted the combinations and have a good understanding what you're changing. Like any other tuning software, there is a learning curve to building good tunes and it doesn't pay to rush it.

As Corey mentioned, we are in the final stages of implementing a forum to handle tuning questions and allow a place for people to be able to swap tune files and share their tips and tricks. After all, that's the whole reason for offering this package in the first place. It is my sincere desire to see the 7.3L guys work together and finally put the 7.3L back on the map and keep it alive. Also, it is absolutely not our intention to divert members away from any of the existing forums such as PSN, Ford-Truck, Comp-D or any of the others and we are looking for an existing forum (*HINT* *HINT*) that would be willing to provide us with an individual section to handle threads specifically related to tuning questions.

One other thing we expect to have going over the next few weeks is to have the "radio" studio back in shape and be able to resume "Truck Talk" (or "Tuning Talk" or something like that) where folks can call in and get some straight answers to those really difficult tuning questions.

Anyway, I am sure I missed some questions there so please check the website for more details. At this time, the only thing really holding us up is completion of the instruction manual and the organization of some of the calibrations. Expected released date is Dec. 1, 2008 but if things go ahead of schedule, then we might be able to release it early. We are going to have a limited number of kits (around 30, I think) for the initial release so we are considering taking pre-orders for those who are really interested.

If you have any questions, please check the website and if you are not able to find what you are looking for then feel free to drop us an e-mail or give us a call and we'll answer your questions as quickly as possible.

Have a great weekend.
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