That's not the case at all.

How many passenger car emission stickers from 1975 thru 1979 have you seen?

I've seen 100's.

All of these cars have cats, some have stickers that say CATALYST, most do not.

My 1979 351M Thunderbird Town Landau, which I bought new, didn't say CATALYST. This car was bought at Crenshaw Motors in Los Angeles, and had two cats on it.

This pictured Bird had cats (originally). Most peeps don't know that because most of the cats in the 1970's mount just in front of the mufflers.

Birds, some other cars have the cats in the inlet pipes right under the exhaust manifolds. All one sees is a bulge in the inlet pipes.

That '78 Bronco you had, that you say came from CA would have had one cat, would have had T/E = Thermactor Emission when new.

In fact, all the 1978/79 Bronco's had these parts.

Only the '78/79 Bronco's sold new in Canada didn't have a cat (dunno about T/E), and while your '78 Bronco came from CA, was it sold new here?

If so...someone removed this emissions equipment before you get it.

 

i know you know miles more than me number dummy but the valve covers read non catalyst and this car was purchased from the original owner, and it is all stock, i wish i took a picture as proof and i know the covers could have been switched or what not, but this car is in really good shape for around here in Ontario Canada, and if i get to see it before its bought then i will snap a pic of the valve cover, the car is a 77 and has a 351 m engine and i know the original owner would have no reason to switch the covers, and i think all California birds had the cats, but i don't know about the canuck snow birds lol , all i know is its bone stock and low mile and in really good shape for a rustbelt bird, i know you have way more experience and knowledge number dummy, i am just going by what the valve covers say, and the exhaust system is all stock and original and has the same pipe as 77!!!! i should double check the hidden cats you mentioned, but the stick looks legit and stock, i think it could be a one in a million birds! i have no experience with the 70s birds and i know more about the 50s and 60s birds and i have recently started to learn about the big birds of the 70's, dam its one huge car, and this is the downsized bird, the 76 and older gen of t bird was a bigger car, i think the 77 t bird was based on the torino/ ltd of the time if i remember correctly, anyways this is what i found and this is what i see so please correct me if i am wrong, but it seems strange then if they never made one with no cats?????

 

the t bird in the pic has a sticker that reads non catalyst on the valve cover ? the car has had only one owner and i see no reason for him to swap covers, and the car is bone stock and has the original exhaust pipe! and is solid for a rustbelt Canadian car, the doors shut like new! and it is low mileage, and i can't see the only owner modding anything, and i would bet he would have kept the original battery if it lasted that long! lol all i know is the valve covers look legit and original and i will have to check to see if i can see the hidden cats! meow meow where are you kitty! lol i know the covers can be changed but i see no reason why he would have, and i wish i snapped a pic of the covers, i will if i get to see the car again, i wonder if this is some Canuck snow bird rarity? i imagine the california birds all had cats because of the smog regulations there, but there might be a non cat bird up here in Canada? if there is then this one is! and i know you have tons more experience number dummy then i got, but i am just going by what the emissions sticker says and that the car probably has the factory spark plugs its that stock!

 

Canada has different emissions standards, could be the reason why it did not come with cats.

A word of warning. A smog shop cannot make you put cats on a vehicle that did not come from the factory with them. Just as it is illegal to take your emissions equipment off, its illegal to put any ol thing on there you see fit, like a converter. There are some parts however that are an exception. Vehicles that had factory cats had heat shields installed, non cat vehicles were lacking this feature.

If you can get away without driving the truck, just sideline it till you get home.

Here is a copy of an emissions manual a smog shop would look at to verify the equipment that you should have.

 

sorry about the double post, when i posted the first time it said error and did not show my post so i made a second one, lol sorry for the confusion and i think your right about the different standards up here in the great white north.

 

I've seen some, but not 100's.

I have to respectfully disagree with you, (but cannot give definitive proof at this time) that all 1978/79 Bronco's had a cat & thermactor. I believe all '79's did, and MAYBE '78's sold in CA.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but do not Thermactor & Cats usually go hand-in-hand?

I cannot be sure my 78 Bronco from CA was originally sold there (will have to check my paperwork; sold it 3 years ago) but it was rust free like it was there for a majority of its life.

So if your sticker did not say 'CATALYST', then it could not have said 'NON-CATALYST' either, yes? Maybe a different format sticker?

 

Thermactor=air pump, which I have seen on non cat equipped vehicles. Just because it came that way from the factory, doesnt nescessarily mean thats how it was supposed to come. How many stories have you heard about the various manufacturers throwing any old thing on just to get the job done, if they run out of something? Or a dumb mistake that would cost more to fix, than it would be to just leave it alone?


This has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but an aquaintence of mine picked up a new(this was a few years ago) Dodge half ton pickup with a 5 speed in it. A 5 speed was not supposed to be available in the US, (only cananda) but here it was, sitting at the dealership on the truck. Five were accidentally shipped to various dealers in CA. My buddy worked at said dealer, they allowed him to buy the truck. My point, just because the book says it aint so, doesnt mean the book is always right. BTW, of the 5 trucks shipped to CA that year, only 2 are still on the road, 3 were wrecked within 2 years of new.

 

that extra gear was to fun i guess and they crashed them up speeding? lol i live in Canada and had no idea the difference in the dodge transmission, what year was this? and i wonder why? seems strange for them to not have the 5 speed in your neck of the woods, i know i am off topic sorry.

 

there's a half ton Dodge here in town with a 5 speed in it. it has a HEMI in it. it's 2wd.

 

Bill, I was looking forward to your response.

 

Hey guys new to the site. I am looking for photos of the smog parts and locations so that I can get everything installed and smogged here in CA. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Welcome to FTE

You need to be more specific when asking a question like this.

What year is the vehicle, what series, what engine? Where was the vehicle sold new? If you don't know, look on the Warranty Plate for the DSO code, post what it is.

The Warranty Plate is located on the left door face below the latch. The DSO code is on the 3rd line-far right.