HHO experience w/ a 6.0L F350 or a 5.0L explorer
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HHO experience w/ a 6.0L F350 or a 5.0L explorer
I posted this in my diesel section w/ no reply's before finding this forum.
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I have been experimenting w/ making my own HHO generators this week and would like to know if there is any knowledge out there about using these on my 6.0L..
Any faults or things you may do differently to save me time,money and aggravation is greatly appreciated. thanks
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I have been experimenting w/ making my own HHO generators this week and would like to know if there is any knowledge out there about using these on my 6.0L..
Any faults or things you may do differently to save me time,money and aggravation is greatly appreciated. thanks
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Yeah, don't waste your time.
It cannot work. Why? The Laws of Thermodynamics haven't' been repealed yet...
Same junk was around in the 70's.
The only way it can "work" (note the emphasis) is to screw with either your MAF or your upstream O2 sensors to force the mixture far leaner than the engine was designed for.
Your stated experience as a mechanic should be able to provide the answer to the following question:
"What happens to an ICE (whether gas or diesel) from running lean for too long?"
It cannot work. Why? The Laws of Thermodynamics haven't' been repealed yet...
Same junk was around in the 70's.
The only way it can "work" (note the emphasis) is to screw with either your MAF or your upstream O2 sensors to force the mixture far leaner than the engine was designed for.
Your stated experience as a mechanic should be able to provide the answer to the following question:
"What happens to an ICE (whether gas or diesel) from running lean for too long?"
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Yeah, don't waste your time.
It cannot work. Why? The Laws of Thermodynamics haven't' been repealed yet...
Same junk was around in the 70's.
The only way it can "work" (note the emphasis) is to screw with either your MAF or your upstream O2 sensors to force the mixture far leaner than the engine was designed for.
Your stated experience as a mechanic should be able to provide the answer to the following question:
"What happens to an ICE (whether gas or diesel) from running lean for too long?"
It cannot work. Why? The Laws of Thermodynamics haven't' been repealed yet...
Same junk was around in the 70's.
The only way it can "work" (note the emphasis) is to screw with either your MAF or your upstream O2 sensors to force the mixture far leaner than the engine was designed for.
Your stated experience as a mechanic should be able to provide the answer to the following question:
"What happens to an ICE (whether gas or diesel) from running lean for too long?"
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I answer a lot of questions in my diesel forums and help guys out all the time, first time over hear and trying something new. Making HHO is a new experience.
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While this whole HHO, Brown's gas, water4gas, or whatever you want to call it is a scam and cant work, diesel engines run very lean most of the time, one of the many reasons they are more efficient. So, what is the problem with running lean for too long?
Unlike a spark ignition engine with a throttle, diesels always take in a full air charge with each intake stroke and vary the power output by regulating fuel flow. The latest direct injection gasoline engines, on some VW/Audi and Lexus, and was used on some large aircraft engines in the 1950's also allows for super lean mixtures. "Leaner is hotter" is a myth borne of 1960's attempts at crude emission controls with fixed jet carburators, going from way rich to slightly rich, which is hottest. Airlines and the military found that leaner is cooler, and cleaner, decades ago.
Jim
Unlike a spark ignition engine with a throttle, diesels always take in a full air charge with each intake stroke and vary the power output by regulating fuel flow. The latest direct injection gasoline engines, on some VW/Audi and Lexus, and was used on some large aircraft engines in the 1950's also allows for super lean mixtures. "Leaner is hotter" is a myth borne of 1960's attempts at crude emission controls with fixed jet carburators, going from way rich to slightly rich, which is hottest. Airlines and the military found that leaner is cooler, and cleaner, decades ago.
Jim
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While this whole HHO, Brown's gas, water4gas, or whatever you want to call it is a scam and cant work, diesel engines run very lean most of the time, one of the many reasons they are more efficient. So, what is the problem with running lean for too long?
Unlike a spark ignition engine with a throttle, diesels always take in a full air charge with each intake stroke and vary the power output by regulating fuel flow. The latest direct injection gasoline engines, on some VW/Audi and Lexus, and was used on some large aircraft engines in the 1950's also allows for super lean mixtures. "Leaner is hotter" is a myth borne of 1960's attempts at crude emission controls with fixed jet carburators, going from way rich to slightly rich, which is hottest. Airlines and the military found that leaner is cooler, and cleaner, decades ago.
Jim
Unlike a spark ignition engine with a throttle, diesels always take in a full air charge with each intake stroke and vary the power output by regulating fuel flow. The latest direct injection gasoline engines, on some VW/Audi and Lexus, and was used on some large aircraft engines in the 1950's also allows for super lean mixtures. "Leaner is hotter" is a myth borne of 1960's attempts at crude emission controls with fixed jet carburators, going from way rich to slightly rich, which is hottest. Airlines and the military found that leaner is cooler, and cleaner, decades ago.
Jim
For these reasons I am not working this into my diesel, just seeking info from others.,I will make a kit for my 5.0L explorer as a test vehicle.. thanks for the info.
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I posted this in my diesel section w/ no reply's before finding this forum.
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I have been experimenting w/ making my own HHO generators this week and would like to know if there is any knowledge out there about using these on my 6.0L..
Any faults or things you may do differently to save me time,money and aggravation is greatly appreciated. thanks
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I have been experimenting w/ making my own HHO generators this week and would like to know if there is any knowledge out there about using these on my 6.0L..
Any faults or things you may do differently to save me time,money and aggravation is greatly appreciated. thanks
I really dont want to give this company business by giving you a link.
this system contains water filters of which gives pure hydrogen gas.
The other hho generators make gas but it has a lot of moisture in it
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HHO & My 5.0 Explorer!
I use HHO and a MAF sensor enhancer on my '96 5.0 Explorer. Works great, could not be happier. Hooking up a MAP/MAF sensor enhancer is too easy and works even better. My increase is from 18 mpg to 24 mpg. No joke!
Not huge but pretty good for AWD V8. I actually build MAP/MAF sensor enhancers now. Check em out if you need one. ************.com
Not huge but pretty good for AWD V8. I actually build MAP/MAF sensor enhancers now. Check em out if you need one. ************.com
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I use HHO and a MAF sensor enhancer on my '96 5.0 Explorer. Works great, could not be happier. Hooking up a MAP/MAF sensor enhancer is too easy and works even better. My increase is from 18 mpg to 24 mpg. No joke!
Not huge but pretty good for AWD V8. I actually build MAP/MAF sensor enhancers now. Check em out if you need one. ************.com
Not huge but pretty good for AWD V8. I actually build MAP/MAF sensor enhancers now. Check em out if you need one. ************.com