50 f6 254 6 cyl. motor mounts, fan belt
#2
As far as I know the external parts like belts and motor mounts are the same on the 254 and the 226 flat six. Some of the internal parts are different.
There are many places that sell reproduction parts like sponsors that are listed on the left side of this screen. Others are Dennis Carpenter , [url=http://www.dennis-carpenter.com[/url], and Job Lot, [url=http://www.joblotauto.com[/url]. There should be a reproduction parts dealer in your state that sells pretty much the same parts, most are Carpenter retailers.
Before you got the internet route try NAPA, or any good auto parts store they will, or should, be able to get the parts you need. Don't got to one of the national chains like Auto Zone or Advanced Auto, all they will do is waste your time looking you parts up on a computer and after 15 minutes tell you they don't have a listing for your truck. I have tried to get the simplest parts from these places and it happens every time. Go to a place that has older people working behind the counter and who will search the old parts books for the correct part.
There are many places that sell reproduction parts like sponsors that are listed on the left side of this screen. Others are Dennis Carpenter , [url=http://www.dennis-carpenter.com[/url], and Job Lot, [url=http://www.joblotauto.com[/url]. There should be a reproduction parts dealer in your state that sells pretty much the same parts, most are Carpenter retailers.
Before you got the internet route try NAPA, or any good auto parts store they will, or should, be able to get the parts you need. Don't got to one of the national chains like Auto Zone or Advanced Auto, all they will do is waste your time looking you parts up on a computer and after 15 minutes tell you they don't have a listing for your truck. I have tried to get the simplest parts from these places and it happens every time. Go to a place that has older people working behind the counter and who will search the old parts books for the correct part.
#3
Thanks Bob!! So, you think f1, with the 226 is the same thing huh? I talked to Mac's and said they only showed up to f3, on the motor mounts. I talked to a NAPA guy today, he was going to check into it for me. I just never called him back yet. I'm guessing your right. I'm replacing the original 254, with a 226. The 254 spun a bearing.
I tried the local guys like you said they looked on the computer and told me it wasn't listed. Auto-zone and Oreilley's run out our NAPA and older parts stores, so now I have to drive 20 miles to NAPA. Like Wal-mart and our local small grocery stores. I run a retail tire shop and nothing good to say about Wal-mart. Use to have much better business.
I never had any other older Fords, so I wasn't sure what parts are the same. Thanks kindly Bob. Bob
I tried the local guys like you said they looked on the computer and told me it wasn't listed. Auto-zone and Oreilley's run out our NAPA and older parts stores, so now I have to drive 20 miles to NAPA. Like Wal-mart and our local small grocery stores. I run a retail tire shop and nothing good to say about Wal-mart. Use to have much better business.
I never had any other older Fords, so I wasn't sure what parts are the same. Thanks kindly Bob. Bob
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#7
254 fan belt
7HT-8620-A > > Replaced by > > C9PZ-8620-FH .. Fan Belt (Motorcraft JG-433)
JG-433 decodes to this: J = fan belt / G = 7/8" wide / 433 = 43.3" long.
NAPA can cross the Motorcraft fan belt number over to the brands they sell.
JG-433 decodes to this: J = fan belt / G = 7/8" wide / 433 = 43.3" long.
NAPA can cross the Motorcraft fan belt number over to the brands they sell.
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#8
The Ford Truck Parts Catalog calls 7HC-6037 a bracket.
For the 254 I-6, the parts catalog lists (2) 8L-6038-B Insulators (Rubber Mounts).
If they're correct, greensalescompany.com has 4 of them / 800-543-4959
#9
Just needed the mounts and bolts. NAPA had the belt, mounts. I asked for it all, but never got the bolts and they can't get them. I'm using grade 8 bolts, and making a sleeve out of pipe. It should work I hope. Anyway it looks like it might work.
Does greensalescompany sell the mount bolts?
And after pulling the 254 and sitting it side by side, you guys are right. Same exact
thing. We change the exhaust/intakes, because dad's f6 used vacuum for the brakes, and 2-speed rear. That went smooth. Both the f1, 226 and the f6, 254 had the same
size cluthes. Both 10 spline outputs. We used dad's f6 clutch much better shape, LN.
Tomarrow we are going to install the 226, hope it goes in easy.
Thanks a ton for all the good input, numbers. It was really a big help to us!! THANKS
Does greensalescompany sell the mount bolts?
And after pulling the 254 and sitting it side by side, you guys are right. Same exact
thing. We change the exhaust/intakes, because dad's f6 used vacuum for the brakes, and 2-speed rear. That went smooth. Both the f1, 226 and the f6, 254 had the same
size cluthes. Both 10 spline outputs. We used dad's f6 clutch much better shape, LN.
Tomarrow we are going to install the 226, hope it goes in easy.
Thanks a ton for all the good input, numbers. It was really a big help to us!! THANKS
#11
Kewanee, Ill. 61443
I have a guy I promised first shot at the engine several weeks ago. I just e-mailed him to see if he's still wanting it. He's got one that the pistons are froze in. His crank would be in good shape though. I won't be tearing it down
to inspect the crank. I know it wasn't run to much after the knock begin, and dad has had the truck for over 20 some years. I'll let you know what he decides, if your not to far off. Or if your interested. Bob
I have a guy I promised first shot at the engine several weeks ago. I just e-mailed him to see if he's still wanting it. He's got one that the pistons are froze in. His crank would be in good shape though. I won't be tearing it down
to inspect the crank. I know it wasn't run to much after the knock begin, and dad has had the truck for over 20 some years. I'll let you know what he decides, if your not to far off. Or if your interested. Bob
#12
We got the 226 in the f6 yesterday. No fire to the plugs. We used the cap, wires, from the 254 engine as we knew it was running using these parts. Oh, also used the coil. I made a new wire for the dist., and replaced the end with bare wire showing on the generator wire. Does anyone know if the distributors are the same on the 226 H, and the 254 M? And is the timing mark on the balancer the nipple? I didn't know if the gears (dist.) were the same or different. I know the 254 ran, the 226 I am not sure about. I only know it's been sitting 4 or 5 years. The valves all go up and down, and has compression. I didn't know if I should switch distributors, or just take out the points and cond. Could be as simple as the condensor, I've had these go bad before for seeming no reason. I have fire at the points, not to the plugs. I'm using old plugs. But they should spark if it was getting fire to them. I even stuck a screw driver in a wire and grounded it and nothing.
I'd be thrilled to get some expert advise. I don't want to get this thing out of time, assuming it's not already. I'll roll it around a couple times and see if the rotor lines up with the #1 plug. I should have done that already, but was burnt out after getting the engine in. Trucks 20 miles from here, been doing the job under a tree. Been getting alot of ribing about being shadetree mechanic's. We just tell people that the warranty just ran out. Were putting in a 60 year old motor in a 58 year old truck. Most people think were nuts,
except the old timers. Dad's 81, I'm 55 and the trucks older than me. Bob
I'd be thrilled to get some expert advise. I don't want to get this thing out of time, assuming it's not already. I'll roll it around a couple times and see if the rotor lines up with the #1 plug. I should have done that already, but was burnt out after getting the engine in. Trucks 20 miles from here, been doing the job under a tree. Been getting alot of ribing about being shadetree mechanic's. We just tell people that the warranty just ran out. Were putting in a 60 year old motor in a 58 year old truck. Most people think were nuts,
except the old timers. Dad's 81, I'm 55 and the trucks older than me. Bob
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#14
Sounds to me, if you have spark at the points, that you have either a bad dist. cap or more likely, bad wires. Did you check all spark wires to see if you get a spark in any of them? The rotor could also be bad, that would be my guess if you don't get spark to any plug. You might be better off getting all of the parts for a complete tune-up, new plugs, points, condenser, cap, rotor and plug wires.
#15
I had the other rotor with me then, that didn't make any difference. The
wires come off the 254 which ran, but knocked. We only checked #1 and #2,
for spark as we were beat for the day. I'm going back over tomarrow. I'll take the 254 distributor and the 226 wires. Might switch distributors, if they look the same. I know the one from the original 254 ran and has for well over 20 years.
We also put the intake/exhaust and carb on the 226, because the f6
needed the vacuum stuff for the 2-speed rear, and hydro-boost brakes. It all was in working order. It was an easy swap too. Unusual. Thanks, Bob
wires come off the 254 which ran, but knocked. We only checked #1 and #2,
for spark as we were beat for the day. I'm going back over tomarrow. I'll take the 254 distributor and the 226 wires. Might switch distributors, if they look the same. I know the one from the original 254 ran and has for well over 20 years.
We also put the intake/exhaust and carb on the 226, because the f6
needed the vacuum stuff for the 2-speed rear, and hydro-boost brakes. It all was in working order. It was an easy swap too. Unusual. Thanks, Bob