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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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what to do for performance

I posted this in the performance fourm yesterday with no responses so I thought I would try this fourm
I have a 2006 F-250 2x4 with the 6.0. So far I have put on the Bully Dog tripple dog w/outlook moniter (I know the SCT is supposed supposed to be better, but I got a good deal on the bully dog), Banks Ram-Air intake, and I have orderd 5" MRBP exhaust the one w/o the cat (hasnt came in yet, Cant wait). What should I do next. I was thiking Banks techni-cool intercooler, but I dont know. Should I do head studs before I go any futher, or should I do someother performance mod. Also my EGR is unpluged, My EGT's run around 1442 deg or so with the peadle to the floor. The bully dog kept defueling so I raised the limit to 1500 deg. Is this Ok? Is there something else I can do to get the EGT's down, or should the exhaust take care of the high EGT? I know that this is alot of questions, but I dont know much about diesel performance, and you guys are the best. . as always thanks for your input.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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The exhaust with no cat will make a big difference with your egt's, hurry and get that on!

The Banks intercooler will also help lower egt's but not as much as the exhaust will.

ARP headstuds are a good idea on all the 6.0's, and sooner or later you will probably have to do them.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:22 PM
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thanks I also tow a 38' fifth wheel. it is very heavy. the coolant and trans temp dont get too hot but they do get up there a pretty good ways. what should I do about this.
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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A good tranny pan will be a big help when towing: Mag-Hytec
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Bypass the egr cooler and do the ARP head studs. You can pay now or pay more later when the heads warp.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by texans
My EGT's run around 1442 deg or so with the peadle to the floor. The bully dog kept defueling so I raised the limit to 1500 deg. Is this Ok? Is there something else I can do to get the EGT's down, or should the exhaust take care of the high EGT?
Exhaust will help lower egt's but a 5" exhaust for just a tuner might be alittle more exhaust then you needed. Also is the reading for your egt's pre- or post-turbo? Which ever one it is 1442 is a little on the hot side no matter where your getting your reading from. I also suggest getting the studs done as well, but while your in there doing the stud get a fluidampner, fuel regulated return, and if your going to do bigger performance mods like injectors and/or turbo do it now as well. Of course, doing injectors and/or turbo would mean that you would have to ditch the bully dog and go custom unless you want to take a chance of a rough ride.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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+1 for adding ARP head studs, especially since you tow heavy.

I added a Mag-Hytec pan and a bypass trans filter (Dieselsite) and it's helped keep the trans temp down a bit. According to the FTE resident Ford transmission expert, Mark Kovalsky, the TorqShift and Mercon SP fluid can take up to 220 degrees. The highest I've seen since changing the pan and adding the bypass filter is 210 degrees while towing up the Grapevine bypass mountain road last August on a 100 degree afternoon at 25 to 35 mph.

Here's the link to the trans bypass filter: Dieselsite Transmission Filter Kit Ford 2003-2007 6.0L

They also have a coolant filter that's highly recommended to keep the block casting crud from blocking the engine oil cooler and overheating the EGR cooler.

Prepare for a thinner wallet!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Prepare for a thinner wallet!
The joys of mod sickness.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Evans waterless coolant I heard works a lot more efficiently than regular 'ol antifreeze, but it's what I would consider expensive. You can see their advertisements in the diesel performance magazines. If your EGT probe is pre-turbo where it should be, you can run at 1200 F all day long, but beyond that, you start to do damage. I wouldn't run mine above 1300 for more than 45 seconds or so, and above 1400 for more than 10 seconds. Like everyone else said, do the head studs, because sooner or later you'll need them with that setup. It is also my experience that bully dog chips and tuners seem to get hotter faster than most other brands. If your pyro probe is installed after the turbo than you should read about 200 F less than pre-turbo. Also, a good way to get your trans. temps down is to down shift and let the engine rev a little higher. It puts less strain on things, letting them cool. try this next time you get it uncomfortably warm.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by texans
I posted this in the performance fourm yesterday with no responses so I thought I would try this fourm
I have a 2006 F-250 2x4 with the 6.0. So far I have put on the Bully Dog tripple dog w/outlook moniter (I know the SCT is supposed supposed to be better, but I got a good deal on the bully dog), Banks Ram-Air intake, and I have orderd 5" MRBP exhaust the one w/o the cat (hasnt came in yet, Cant wait). What should I do next. I was thiking Banks techni-cool intercooler, but I dont know. Should I do head studs before I go any futher, or should I do someother performance mod. Also my EGR is unpluged, My EGT's run around 1442 deg or so with the peadle to the floor. The bully dog kept defueling so I raised the limit to 1500 deg. Is this Ok? Is there something else I can do to get the EGT's down, or should the exhaust take care of the high EGT? I know that this is alot of questions, but I dont know much about diesel performance, and you guys are the best. . as always thanks for your input.
Scotty
Your tuner is bogus, as well as your intake. 5 inch is too big. Banks is over rated (Spearco). Get ARPs off eBay. Get a FASS(R/R) or Airdog. Your EGTs are too high. Spray it with Nitrous or Water injection. Get big oil and big injectors. PHHwwweeeew!
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StealmyTruck
Banks is over rated (Spearco).
Actually their intercooler is the best thing that they have. I like what Spearco uses as materials, but I like the thickness of the banks one.

Originally Posted by StealmyTruck
Get a FASS(R/R) or Airdog.
Actually you mean ITP or Airdog. The FASS fuel system is not a true RR system by the fact that it does not eliminate dead-heading that the injectors are known for on these engines.

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Spray it with Nitrous or Water injection.
Water injection maybe, nitrous not worth the trouble.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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not tryn to start anything but the 5in exhaust sounds sooooo much better than the 4in. In my book it was a very good choice.
 
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Old Jun 10, 2008 | 09:58 PM
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IMO get the studs before intercooler. or you can hope that your TTY bolts hold the power, some actually do, and only replace/upgrade to studs if needed.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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ok the prob is pre-trubo I at least knew that much when I put it on. the egt's stay around 1200 or maybe lower for the most part. when I said 1442 I was mainly just talking about when I get on it. I dont let it stay that high for too long. As far as the 5" exhaust it just seamed more logical to me, cause it was less than 100$ more than the 4" 150$ max. I make good enough money, so I figured why not spend a little bit more and get the bigger exhaust. There is no way im ever going to put nitrous in my truck. I realy dont like that stuff. I might look into water methonal later down the road. For now I think im going to go with the head studs. then probably something to keep the trans a little cooler.
 
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Old Jun 11, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 3000 FPS
Bypass the egr cooler and do the ARP head studs. You can pay now or pay more later when the heads warp.
I was thinking of getting an egr delet kit. is it too difficult to just make one on your own.
 
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