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Hydrogen and Oxygen generator on a v10

Hey I ran across this. Is this for real? anybody out there tried this? Says it can add 25-50% better fuel economy.


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Some of the diesel guys have tried homemade kits, that use's electrolysis to separate the Hydrogen and oxygen and run it in there moters, here are some links

personally I dont think that there is a lot to be gained from doing this on a gas motor, unless you get a custom tune to utilize the injection, the only thing you will most likely do is screw up your AFR because you never tuned for it, but because diesels are compression ignition they can be leaned out more and dont have to monitor there AFR's as closely, just there EGT's. also I dont think that you could split the water molecules fast enough and in enough of a quantity to actually be able to even tune with it

But this is my opinion, read these and see what you think.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...induction.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/7...on-thread.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...-hydrogen.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...t-blackie.html
 
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mean v10 thanks for the links, more then some thing to consider, though from the links you have provided, it seems there having a hard time getting 2lpm none the less it's a step in the right direction
 
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I seen something on the news today and the other week about a hydrogen oxygen fuel. But I have only seen it done on an older civic ( 65mpg confermed by news station) and a ford escort ( 45mpg again confermed), don't know if it would do good on a motor that requires alot more fuel than those.If it works like the news channel says, wonder how long before BIG OIL buys it up?????
 
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Hydrogen generator for a gasser is a farse. Diesels seem to benefit some but a diesel is a completly different animal. I for one am not going to use some homemade pile of crap and experiment on my expensive truck like I've seen already. Just plain stupid in my book to TRY and save a mpg or two, its a work truck for gods sake.

A hydrogen generator and running completely on hydrogen is totally different. What the news guy failed to mention is power will be down with the hydrogen. Look at the numbers the SC V10 is making on hydrogen, far less hp and tq than a stock 99' V10. Hydrogen is the future in my book, but more needs to be put into it to make it practical, starting with a cheap clean way to generate electricity to make hydrogen.
 
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My opinion Is that we sill go electric, with batteries and not hydrogen, look at the Chevy Volt and the Toyota, there using technology that we currently have and not trying to use next generation stuff that we dont have the technology for. Just my opinion,

Also I dont believe there is a thing as "clean energy" what people fail to realize is that if you and the rest of America buy an electric car and plug it into the wall every night (same goes for hydrogen and the amount of energy needed to produce it) were is the power going to come from? Coal? nuclear with all of its depleted uranium rods ( that we make into armor piercing shells) plus all those batteries are going to eventual wear out then they go to some land fill and instead of having to deal with c02 that trees can use you have old batteries with all there acid and a bunch of nuclear waste.

Also DFK the v10 that runs on hydrogen is still using the internal combusionto run a motor off hydrogen instead of gas, this really isn't the way that they want to use it, they are going to ry to use reverse electrolysis to bond the hydrogen and oxygen to create electricity, like an electric car and suposidly the only byproduct is water out the tail pipe. you may have known this but its just a heads up of how i understand it.
My whole point is that nobody gets a free lunch.
 
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My opinion Is that we sill go electric, with batteries and not hydrogen, look at the Chevy Volt and the Toyota, there using technology that we currently have and not trying to use next generation stuff that we dont have the technology for. Just my opinion,

Also I dont believe there is a thing as "clean energy" what people fail to realize is that if you and the rest of America buy an electric car and plug it into the wall every night (same goes for hydrogen and the amount of energy needed to produce it) were is the power going to come from? Coal? nuclear with all of its depleted uranium rods ( that we make into armor piercing shells) plus all those batteries are going to eventual wear out then they go to some land fill and instead of having to deal with c02 that trees can use you have old batteries with all there acid and a bunch of nuclear waste.

Also DFK the v10 that runs on hydrogen is still using the internal combusionto run a motor off hydrogen instead of gas, this really isn't the way that they want to use it, they are going to ry to use reverse electrolysis to bond the hydrogen and oxygen to create electricity, like an electric car and suposidly the only byproduct is water out the tail pipe. you may have known this but its just a heads up of how i understand it.
My whole point is that nobody gets a free lunch.
I think you pretty much covered it. Theres downsides to everything, they just need to figure out how to manage the waste products.

I think having a completly silent vehicle would take a lot of fun out of driving.
 
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I think having a completly silent vehicle would take a lot of fun out of driving.
Straight-cut gears, a BIG electric motor and lots of squealing rubber would take care of that for ya!
 
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I agree with you DKF. I bought a V10, not a v10. I was just stating something on the news. Glad ya'll could fill in the gaps for me.

To comment on the battery cars, I have heard that when they wear out it will cost you your first born to replace them.
 
 
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