And that's one of the ones with the least number of threads.

Re:

December 1996 - 4.6L 4V alignment feature added
February 1997 - 4.6L 2V head alignment feature added
September 2000 - WEP (Windsor Engine Plant) 2V head alignment feature modified (4.6/5.4/6.8)
November 2002 - WEP introduced long thread heads on 2V (all)
May 2003 - REP (Romeo Engine Plant) introduced long-thread heads on 4V 4.6 and 5.4
November 2003 - REP introduced long-thread heads on 2V and modified alignment feature

 

What year, what engine, what vehicle?

 

is 04 v10 goning to blow plugs like per years

 

Only if you've had a mindless gorilla with a socket messing with them on initial installation,or when servicing them.
JL

 

Sorry, I just cant take it anymore...I have to chime in at this point.
Ya'll can poke and prod me for this, once I am done.

Johnny Langton...
Did I miss something here? Or are we just stupid or something?
Just because you have not had the unfortunate experience that hundreds
of thousands of other people have had, does NOT mean that it is all in our
heads. For crying out loud man, you sound just like the dealer, when we
take our vehicles in for service. 'Oh well, we cant replicate it, so it must be in your head.'
You are probably a stand up guy, with good intentions, but to say what you've been saying in your past replies is too much.
You are starting to sound like a moron.

Ya' know, Japan was naive and ignorant too during WWII.
Until we nuked 'em.

JUST BECAUSE IT HASN'T HAPPENED TO YOU, DOESNT MEAN ITS FAKED!
Nobody is hyping it up or making it bigger than it is.
Same goes for Ford's other screw ups:
spark plug blowouts in 2v
spark plug breakage in 3v
6.0 diesel
6.4 diesel
weak auto. trannies
trash dual turbo programming
weak synchro's in manuals
electrical problems
death wobble
crappy fuel mileage and power in newer trucks
---OVERALL CRAPPY ENGINEERING on Ford's part---

This is just a few!

Now, do you still feel that we just make these things up for fun?
Or just because we are bored and need something to talk about?



Man I hate to tell you, but my wallet is getting pretty wore out.
And to be honest, I am losing patience with people that say
ignorant things, like you have.
I just spent over $5k to completely and totally remedy the 99'
head problem for good on my 5.4 liter.
I can guarantee that I will never have this problem again.
Mind you, I got no help from Ford.
I took care of the problem myself.
If you think that this is some kind of joke to you, come over to
my house and I will show you the crappy heads that came off of
my truck. I have two scrap metal pieces, that Ford called heads.

I had 3 plugs blow out in one year (different cylinders).
Like in baseball...3 strikes your out.
I dont play games and I wont put up with Ford's BS.
It doesnt matter if its my vehicles, employees, or what not.

***

I think I am done now...I am pretty pissed off, if you cant tell.

 

I OWN MORE THAN ONE, and service MORE THAN a dozen 2V's on a regular basis with these old "crappy" low spark plug thread count heads.
NOT A SINGLE ONE HAS EVER HAD A SPARK PLUG PROBLEM.
Not in literally MILLIONS of combined miles driven and COUNTLESS spark plug changes. I've changed plugs in my Tbird more in the last 13 years than you'd believe. With a high compression 2V, spinning to 7K rpms and the '97 heads with UNTOUCHED spark plug threads (yep,the original old "crap" 3-4 thread heads). That engine gets a new set of plugs before EVERY race weekend,and sometimes multiple sets in a weekend if they're suspect. Those head have NEVER had a torque wrench on them,and has had the plugs changed from ice cold before a race day to blistering hot after several drag passes.
I've proven with actual experience what works-you've proven that you know how to spit out plugs.

I've NEVER said that spark plugs do not come pop out of the 2V engines.
I've stated what causes it.
1-Improper installation at the engine assembly plant.
2-Attempting to use a torque wrench on these heads.
3-Gorillas with ratchets and sockets that don't understand that aluminum heads and iron heads are different.
4-Detonation (pinging) and drivers that refuse to pull out of the throttle when there's a problem with the fuel or driving conditions causing that detonation.
5-Mindlessly believing the "suggestion" that you leave spark plugs in an engine for 100K miles.

JL

 

i'm with Langton here..

i'm one my 3rd mod. motor truck. i've never had a issue.

i had/have 99 6.8L F250, a 2000 5.4 F150, and now a 2003 6.8L F250.

i'd like to know where you got the figure of 100's of thousands from..while some trucks are spitting plugs i dont think its ANYWERE near the numbers your quoting.

 

Whatever you say.
You're smart, I'm stupid.
None of the Ford problems ever happened.
Ford has a spotless track record.

Okay..........
2v heads spitting plugs
3v heads breaking plugs
6.0 POS
6.4 bigger POS
Death wobble
crappy dual turbo software
COPs constantly going out for no apparent reason
inferior manual synchros
inferior early automatics
Defective stearing boxes
inferior clutches
inferior manifold bolts
below par fuel mileage
really bad/dangerous emissions on late models

Yeah, none of these existed either, huh?

You going to tell me that Ford's bed buddy Firestone didnt have
any tire blowouts either, because you never heard of it or had
it happen to you either?

Sir, it is time that you opened your mind to the possibilities.
We are not ignorant people...we should be smarter than that.
Your five excuses are the same exact ones that Ford has given out to cover their a$$.
The real reasons are that the heads have only 4 threads and use an inferior grade of aluminum.
Between the two of these, the plugs cannot stay in the holes and therefore blow out and rip
the threads with them.

 

Rentaman you are out of line.

Nobody is saying that aluminum heads with 4 threads holding the plug in is a good design, its a bad design. All it takes is for what little threads that are there to get messed once and they are done for. If your too ignorant to accept whats being said are some of the causes of blown plugs, well thats your problem.

BTW you spent a lot more on your 5.4l than you had to. There are proven repair methods for blown plugs at a fraction of the cost of new heads.

 

As an owner of a 99' super duty with the 6.8, i can assure you that there is a real issue of these heads blowing plugs. I just now had the repair done for the third and final time. The first time it happened, the mechanic guessed which cylinder it was on the first guess. I had the second repaired a few months later. My truck is now in the shop again getting ALL of the cylinders that havent popped, done the right way. This is what ford somehow managed to avoid paying for. My total bill for getting the motor to the point it should have been from the factory is well over 1500 bucks. Much cheaper than new heads that will break and do the same thing. Its ashame that the price of labor kept ford from fixing all of their bad motors, because the part itself only runs about $30 per cylinder.

BTW, this is my second motor in this truck. The first motor gave me 120k before the bottom end quit and put a hole in the block. Wouldnt you know it, the first motor spit a plug too at around 85k miles. I ordered a crate motor about 40k miles ago that came with new heads. I spit plugs at 32k, 34k, and now at 40k. Every mechanic has told me the same thing, these heads are piles of ****. IT IS NOT A MAINTENENCE ISSUE.

This problem is also not prevy to just the 6.8l, the 5.4, 4.6l, and i think even the v-6s had the issue as well.

One truck owner, 4 blown spark plugs on 2 different motors. Ford really got away with one here, they should be asking for government funds just like GM.

 

Sounds like an owner denial "it's not me" issue .
Mechanics will say whatever they can to make a buck from ignorant consumers.
JL

 

You sir, have no idea what you are talking about. Are you calling me ignorant? Also, do you know my mechanic? Have you done any real research on this issue? If it hasnt happened to you, I doubt you have.

Look, I'm a ford guy through and through. I'll never buy a truck that doesnt have a blue oval stamped on it. But even someone who loves the folks in dearborn as much as you or I has to concede to the facts. The facts are that Ford developed, and mass produced a flawed head design. The effects of which will be felt by the owners of these vehicles for years and years to come.

You may have been really lucky with your motors, others have not been. Your statements lead me to believe that you have no business commenting on this issue. You want to see ignorance, have a look in the mirror.........

 

Believe what you want-you're wrong. I keep up with and manage an entire fleet of Ford 2V modulars for the company I work for in addition to the 500K+ miles I've put on MY OWN 2V modulars that I PERSONALLY maintain..
In MILLIONS OF MILES on abused work trucks, we HAVE NOT had a single spark plug thread related failure.
This is because we maintain a strict maintenance schedule that DOES NOT include 100K mile plug changes. Anybody that leaves plugs in an engine for 100K miles is asking for trouble,I don't care how many threads they have. you MIGHT get away with it in a commuter car, but with a truck that will see loads and get worked regularly,you CANNOT do this. It IS NOT flawed design, it IS flawed owner maintenance or pre-existing damage due to idiots damaging plugs upon initial installation..

JL

 

I don't have anything to say to that other than you must have the magic touch.

You should personally install spark plugs for Ford. The issue would have never happened. Ford could have avoided paying millions of dollars in litigation fees to lawyers had you been working for them.

And btw, you managed to not under or over torque countless spark plugs on aluminum heads without a torque wrench? You must not be human. Are you a robot sir? Maybe your from another planet. Its okay to tell us, your secret will be safe.

 

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