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Old 05-03-2008, 08:07 PM
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Help me with my miss, more info

My 97 SD has had this same miss since I got it back in the fall. Testing in the fall said it needed #2 and 8 injectors which I replaced. Truck ran differant but still has miss. Truck starts easy, no smoke runs well until hot then developes am miss. Runs fine on level ground and pulls great but go down a hill and when you level out or start back up and need some power again it will miss, dead miss on one cylinder. If you mash the pedal it will never come out of it but if you ease into it it will miss for a second or two and then come out of it sometimes popping out the exhaust when it starts to hit. Will also miss if you stop at a light, not sitting at the light but when you accelerate away from it, again only when hot. Well we got it back on a scanner again today while hot. (the truck passes the cold buzzer test) He ran the test while running, "contribution?" I think? First time said number 1 and 3 injectors. He ran it again just for kicks and it said Number 2, ran it again and said 2-8 (the ones replaced in the fall. He probaly ran the test 5-6 times and each time iot gave differant injectors as bad other than I dont recall #7 3 or 5 being singled out. The elecitrics ohm out fime and evrything in the wiring looks OK nothing burned or corroded. The mech is lost and so am I but it took little to loose me, LOL He has checked the HPOP and says it OK.

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Old 05-04-2008, 07:00 AM
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So it doesn't miss cold? If that is the case there is either a HP oil issue or an injector issue. Could be injector o-rings but more than likely and internal injector issue where it is bypassing oil. You can pull the VC's and start the truck and watch for oil flow steady out of the oil spounts and also watch for spurts of oil where the injector goes into the head.
 
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Old 05-04-2008, 11:15 AM
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I agree with TJ...HPO system or a sticky IPR valve.
Do you have a stick or auto trans?
I copied this from dieselmanns web page:
PowerStroke Diagnosis
1996-97 PowerStroke Stalling intermittently after a long deceleration in manual first or second gear in automatic trucks, or in low gears with ZF 5-speed, when shifting back up into a higher gear or depressing the clutch may be corrected by: performing electronic engine control diagnostics; replacing the oil with the recommened SAE weight for the ambient temp and API rating; replacing the Injection Control Pressure sensor (ICP, P/N F6TZ-9F838-A) with one that has a date code of 6318 or higher ("C916318A" 6=1996, 318= Julian date Nov. 15); and adding a pint of Lubrizol 888 or Fleetrite CH1824392.
Note: California vehicles with E4OD automatics need to have the calibration of their powertrain computer updated as per TSB # 98-4-14.
Similar condition:
If you have a customer that drives in low gear at idle speed for an extended time then experiences a stall when depressing the clutch, instruct the customer to drive in low range when this condition normally would occur. The stall is most probably caused by the PCM seeing the accelerator pedal in the idle position (IVS "OFF") and a load on the engine and adapts to this mode. Depressing the clutch suddenly removes the load, the PCM over-compensates, and the engine stalls. There is no repair for this condition
 
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Thanks guys, Yes the truck runs perfectly when cold and warming up, only after it is hot does the problem show up. It is a 5 speed. What has my tech scratching his head is the tester keeps showing different injectors. His own truck has a known bad injector so he hooked it up just to check his tester and it works fine on his truck. HPOP is kinda high buck part for my way of "diagnosis" which is "guess and replace" We will pull the covers again and check what you suggested.
 
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X2 Tj/Cuda

With the failures being random what is in common is oil and fuel.
I would test drive with the scan to see IPR and ICP. Also remember that what the scan shows may not be true. Best is with a gauge on the oil system.
On the fuel side check pressure and for air in the system.

While you have the VC's off pull the coils and check poppet air gap.
You want to see .002

Bill
 
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