Question:
How many 6.0's on the road?
How many 6.4's on the road?
How many 6.7 cummins on the road?
Your facts are like a rainy day--skewed.

 

Roger that!

MPG matters to me, too. So does the price tag on the new trucks. Thats why I'm still drivin my ol' 97. She eats gas, but having the title means no payment. Just shows that you have to look at the big picture...

 

what i said was- i would take a truck that had a proven engine and maybe a little less on creature comforts, instead of a 'better" interior truck and deal with constant engine problems.cummins produced well over a million 5.9's for dodge before they switched to the 6.7's. says something about durability ( no changing engines/engine designs every four- six years-6.0 to the 6.4) just because there are more 6.0's on the road does not make them a better engine. there was a thread/poll that was going on a couple of days back on here about which year 6.0 liter would you own-or would not own any- "the would not own any" thread was by far the winner. i love the fact that i can open my hood and actually see my engine. it is a nice feeling to know that i can actually work on my engine- i don't have to disassemble the top of my engine to reach my turbo - i can change my turbo in my drive way on my knees through the wheel well in three hours ( if i did not want to use my lift) i can change my injectors in a couple of hours,i can change my head studs in under four hours without removing the cab of my truck!! its nice to know that i can do 95% of any engine work,etc in a half day on a saturday and still have time to take the wife out for dinner,instead of having to take it to the dealer and pay 90 bucks an hour because it requires removing half the engine components/engine, requires special tools and because the book time on the job is 8,10 or 12 hours!-and that is when you know what you are doing!!

 

So cummins is probably going to see the problems that Ford and Chevy will have in 2 years then right. The only reason the 6.0L was so bad, was because of software problems, that caused egr problems etc. where as the thousands of internationals out there running a 6.0L with different software runs problem free.

 

i doubt it- the 6.7 engine is already 2010 compliant- any "bugs" with the engine now will be worked out by them, where as ford and chevy will have to 'rework" or modify their current engines to meet the 2010 emissions-which will probably cause another bout of "bugs" needing to be worked out-causing more headaches for new owners. the 6.0 engine had more than software problems- i read about a lot of other complaints- especially head gaskets! i imagine that is a major headache for owners -especially for the ones not under warranty anymore- since that is not your normal do it yourself job on a 6.0 engine.-big bucks!!

 

I'd have to see records on the VT365 because IMO the 6.0 has some plain old design problems and shares a lot of qualities of the old Olds 350 diesel. (Rushed to production, too few head bolts and they are torque to yield, inadequate mechanic training)

I'm pretty sure that the 6.7 Cummins is 2010 compliant.

Mike

 

Only the 6.7 used in the Chassis Cabs is 2010 compliant... it has less horsepowers as a result (about 305 I think?)
Less torque too I believe.

 

the 6.7's are the all same engines- different engine programming. the only additional item the chassis cab trucks have, is a NOx absorber to make it 2010 compliant--.chassis cabs trucks have a cat,NOx absorber,dpf. the regular trucks just have a cat and dpf.

 

untrue.... my 6.7 3500 dually mega is 2010 compliant and trouble free to this point (7000 miles), and runs like a raped ape. i too love the accessability underhood. filters and other parts are far cheaper across the board. the cab doesn't have to come off to fix diddly squat, and everything just seems better placed. that is why i went with this truck. i don't need all the extras, and just wanted what i thought was the best motor going at the time. it does utilize 40% of the 5.9 parts. as stated above, the 5.9 was proven. many with well over 500k on them. show me the 6.0l's that can lay that claim. very few i'm certain. the cummins rebuild time is estimated at between 300k and 400k, with a lifespan of over million miles. the link below has some descent info on it for anyone interested in learning more.

Cummins Every Time - Dodge Ram - 6.7-Liter Turbo Diesel

 

Go with the superduty end of story

 

It meets the Nox EPA requirements... not the particulate requirements.

The Cab Chassis variants with the 305hp/610lbft engine also meet the 2010 particulate requirements

 

Agreed, and yes I got beer.

Mike

 

Then you sir, have not changed your oil filter or that on your old 6.0, which is the same as a 6.4. Truly an easy "accessable" thing to do on the Ford, and truly NOT on the Dodge (6.7 or 5.9).

 

EXactly! THere is NO easer oil filter to change than a 6.0. The 5.9 is a pain in the **** and more difficult to change than the 6.0! If you have changed the oil on both you would freakin know! I have.......

 

wow! it literally takes me 10 minutes to change my oil and filter on my 5.9!. i am glad if doing an oil change on a 6.0 is a minute or two faster-that would be the only thing easier on a 6.0. see my other post above-about being able to see and work on your own engine!