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Originally Posted by jmaskew
Install a coolant bypass filter to help prevent the oil cooler from becoming plugged which will cause the egr cooler to fail.
I know a lot of people like to delete the egr cooler; are there fines associated with deleting it if you're caught? Will it have an effect on passing emissions? Is the oil cooler really that necessary? Is there a way to set the oil cooler up as a bypass just like the coolant bypass filter set up (if that sounds silly it's because I'm not a mechanic but I had to ask).
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3. Injectors

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=634 border=0 x:str><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=15>HELP Prevent Injector Stiction (oil side):</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Change oil at 5,000 miles, use OEM style filers</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Use 5w40 synthetic oil</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Oil temp gauge - alarm at 400 degrees
Heat induction flash (replaces the buzz flash)
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<TABLE style="WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=634 border=0 x:str><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=15>

Resolve Injector Stiction (oil side):

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Hot Shot's Secret Oil Additive</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15 x:str="http://www.lubricationspecialties.com/ ">http://www.lubricationspecialties.com/</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4PRN/is_2007_Nov_21/ai_n21119141</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/609446-hot-shots-secret-oil-additive.html?highlight=Hot+Shot</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



<TABLE style="WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=634 border=0 x:str><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=15>Prolong Injector Life:</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Change fuel filter at 10,000 miles, use OEM style filters

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Good quality fuel - purchase at high volume stations

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 22.5pt" height=30><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 22.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=30>After filter change, remove air before starting: 3 cycles of (ignition on for 3 sec, ignition off for 15 sec). Then ignition off for 3 seconds and START.

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 22.5pt" height=30><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 22.5pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=30>Find a good additive for lubricity and in event of getting bad fuel (w/ water, low cetane, additives not added, etc).


According to the manual - use an additive when suspect fuel quality problems : non alcohol, water demulsifier

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Do not run your tank empty (below 45 psig fuel pressure ruins injectors)

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Install a fuel pressure gauge with an alarm point you can set. Stop if it drops below 45 psig

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Biodiesel is a great lubricity additive, just remember it can gel. Use an antigel additive, especially in winter

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Mods -- ITP Return Regulated Fuel System (equal pressure to all injectors), FASS System - pressure control, air removal

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=634 border=0 x:str><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl25 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; WIDTH: 476pt; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" width=634 height=15>Resolve Injector Failure:

</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl24 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>Replace them yourself</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/572658-used-injectors.html#post4355612</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 11.25pt" height=15><TD class=xl26 style="BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; HEIGHT: 11.25pt; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" height=15>http://www.FTEs diesel forums.com/forums/f50/injector-replacement-pictures-172748/</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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Hey guys, I am possibly purchasing a 2005 F250 6.0 tomorrow (182k miles/EGR delete(supposedly) and rebuilt injectors according to previous owner). The guy I am getting it from is a friend of mine. His wife has been driving the truck, and a few days ago she ran it out of fuel as she was pulling up to the station. I noticed in this post, that if this occurs, it can potentially damage the injectors. Can anyone tell me what they think about that? Do you think damage is for sure done to them? or is it just "possible"? He told me that its been a little hard to start up the passed couple days if it is not plugged in, but if its warm its no problem at all and has been running fine. (also note, it does have brand new batteries. He also told me it definitely needs an oil change soon. I plan on getting fluids/filters changed when I get it.

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The things critical to the injectors are good oil, good oil pressure, and fuel. The injectors use oil as a basic hydraulic fluid to inject fuel in the cylinder at around 3000 psi. If the injector lacks fuel, you have about 3000 psi goig to a small piston with nothing stopping the piston from slamming down. Thats why running out of fuel can be so damaging. As to whether the injectors are damaged... Time will tell.
Hard starts can happen for a variety of reasons but one of the common ones is a high pressure oil leak in the system somewhere.
I know that doesnt answer your question but you might be better served starting a thread for your particular problem.
Someone a lot smarter than me we help you im sure.
Last thing, if you can get some live data ie. It will help diagnose it.
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Originally Posted by timmytoes
The things critical to the injectors are good oil, good oil pressure, and fuel. The injectors use oil as a basic hydraulic fluid to inject fuel in the cylinder at around 3000 psi. If the injector lacks fuel, you have about 3000 psi goig to a small piston with nothing stopping the piston from slamming down. Thats why running out of fuel can be so damaging. As to whether the injectors are damaged... Time will tell.
Hard starts can happen for a variety of reasons but one of the common ones is a high pressure oil leak in the system somewhere.
I know that doesnt answer your question but you might be better served starting a thread for your particular problem.
Someone a lot smarter than me we help you im sure.
Last thing, if you can get some live data ie. It will help diagnose it.
Good luck!

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Hey guys, I am possibly purchasing a 2005 F250 6.0 tomorrow (182k miles/EGR delete(supposedly) and rebuilt injectors according to previous owner). The guy I am getting it from is a friend of mine. His wife has been driving the truck, and a few days ago she ran it out of fuel as she was pulling up to the station. I noticed in this post, that if this occurs, it can potentially damage the injectors. Can anyone tell me what they think about that? Do you think damage is for sure done to them? or is it just "possible"? He told me that its been a little hard to start up the passed couple days if it is not plugged in, but if its warm its no problem at all and has been running fine. (also note, it does have brand new batteries. He also told me it definitely needs an oil change soon. I plan on getting fluids/filters changed when I get it.

Thank you for your help.
The #1 cause of hard to start cold is a weak FICM. A scan tool or a digital volt meter will tell the story.
17. Can I test my FICM to ensure that it is the culprit?

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The #1 cause of hard to start cold is a weak FICM. A scan tool or a digital volt meter will tell the story.
17. Can I test my FICM to ensure that it is the culprit?

Good luck!
Update: Just spoke with owner a moment ago. He had it plugged up at the dealer, and they have narrowed it down to either the IPR or the dummy plugs. They said that everything else looks fine.
 
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I'm new to the 6.0, and sincerely appreciate your write-up! Thank you.
 
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Am I the only one, Or is the formatting HTML coming through on the first posts in the thread? I can't hardly read it.
 
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What your seeing is the changes made in how the forum software handles formatting.
You might try saving the text and renaming it to .htm or .html and then opening with a web browser.
That might make it so you can view it as it should look.
 
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I'll give it a try but how do I save it and in what?
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With TEXT EDITOR and use Save As HTML
Then clicking on should open with the default web browser.
Likely there qill be errors. You might have to open in the
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Are you using Mac Linux or Windows?

Off to bed for me. Let me know and maybe I can try to work on it if I have some time.
 
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