Door Swap Questions
#31
Wow, cool! I'd like to do this one of these days.
Thanks for the correction on the circuit breaker locations, I've edited my pic as a result (mostly
for future readers).
I'll try and scan some stuff and add it here in the near future.
BTW oddshot posted some good wiring splicing info, it might be helpful for cut wires:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...t-running.html
Thanks for the correction on the circuit breaker locations, I've edited my pic as a result (mostly
for future readers).
I'll try and scan some stuff and add it here in the near future.
BTW oddshot posted some good wiring splicing info, it might be helpful for cut wires:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...t-running.html
#32
Fuse Block Diagrams
OK, a few scans for the archives....
First, the fuse block as per the 1981 shop manual:
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The next is the wiring diagram for the power windows & door locks. I'm not gonna post the
entire pic to this forum, it's toooooo big so just a thumbnail, click it to go to the imageshack
site where you can see a larger version and zoom in on it (which you'll need to do to read
the lettering).
BE SURE YOUR BROWSER ISN'T CONFIGURED TO SHRINK IMAGES TO FIT
YOUR SCREEN ELSE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ IT!
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First, the fuse block as per the 1981 shop manual:
Uploaded with ImageShack.us
The next is the wiring diagram for the power windows & door locks. I'm not gonna post the
entire pic to this forum, it's toooooo big so just a thumbnail, click it to go to the imageshack
site where you can see a larger version and zoom in on it (which you'll need to do to read
the lettering).
BE SURE YOUR BROWSER ISN'T CONFIGURED TO SHRINK IMAGES TO FIT
YOUR SCREEN ELSE YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO READ IT!
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#33
I wanted to add a couple of updates:
I swapped the guts from the power 88 Bronco into my 86 Passenger side door. It worked but there's a few things you should be aware of: The window glass is slightly different from the 86 to 88 models. I think the window portion that rises and lowers is approx. a half inch smaller width wise compared to the 86. I had wanted to transfer over some of the weather stripping from the 88 to my 86 but couldn't because it was a half inch to short. Also, the weather stripping on the inside of the window on the 86 is stapled on while the 88 has special clips that go into the door panel. Since I'm putting 88 guts into an 86 door (and using the 88 door panels) I had to transfer the 86 weather stripping. I had to drill tiny holes into the weather stripping and door panel, and bend staples through the weather stripping into the door to get it to hold. It's in there but I haven't run the windows up and down much to see how well it will hold up. It shouldn't be a problem though.
Also, the door panel clips do not completely match up either. They do for the most part but there are 2 or 3 clips on the rear side of the panel at the top and midway down that do not line up. I had to drill 2 holes in the door panel so it would accept the 88 door panel.
You will also need to drill out and transfer the support bracket that gets screwed into the door panel. (The part that fits across the top of the door panel and the bottom. I went to the hardware store and got 2 bolts and locknuts and it went right in.
So, yes it's doable but there's some fabrication that needs to be done and it's not a direct bolt on. I'm hoping the drivers side goes easier but I'm completely swapping the entire door on that side and not just the guts but that won't be for a couple weeks because i'm in the process of painting it.
I swapped the guts from the power 88 Bronco into my 86 Passenger side door. It worked but there's a few things you should be aware of: The window glass is slightly different from the 86 to 88 models. I think the window portion that rises and lowers is approx. a half inch smaller width wise compared to the 86. I had wanted to transfer over some of the weather stripping from the 88 to my 86 but couldn't because it was a half inch to short. Also, the weather stripping on the inside of the window on the 86 is stapled on while the 88 has special clips that go into the door panel. Since I'm putting 88 guts into an 86 door (and using the 88 door panels) I had to transfer the 86 weather stripping. I had to drill tiny holes into the weather stripping and door panel, and bend staples through the weather stripping into the door to get it to hold. It's in there but I haven't run the windows up and down much to see how well it will hold up. It shouldn't be a problem though.
Also, the door panel clips do not completely match up either. They do for the most part but there are 2 or 3 clips on the rear side of the panel at the top and midway down that do not line up. I had to drill 2 holes in the door panel so it would accept the 88 door panel.
You will also need to drill out and transfer the support bracket that gets screwed into the door panel. (The part that fits across the top of the door panel and the bottom. I went to the hardware store and got 2 bolts and locknuts and it went right in.
So, yes it's doable but there's some fabrication that needs to be done and it's not a direct bolt on. I'm hoping the drivers side goes easier but I'm completely swapping the entire door on that side and not just the guts but that won't be for a couple weeks because i'm in the process of painting it.
#34
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1987-1996/97 doors have the extra holes in the door for the panels 1980-1996/7 etc...
1980-1986 doors do not have the extra holes and they have to be drilled like you mentioned to fit newer trucks 1987-1996/7 etc...
The vent window frames changed in 1987, and then again in 1992. As a concequence the door glass isn't as wide, like you mention. However the vent window frames can be removed and swapped out.
The interior of the 1980-1999 F-600/F-900 trucks did not change styles, and remained vitually the same throughout those 20 years, with little upgrades. As most already know, the 1980-1999 F-600/F-900 share most of the same interior parts with the 1980-1986 F-150/F-250/F-350 etc... This is why the older stuff will fit on the newer doors, but it's not quite as simple to put newer stuff on the older ones.
Hope this helps...
1980-1986 doors do not have the extra holes and they have to be drilled like you mentioned to fit newer trucks 1987-1996/7 etc...
The vent window frames changed in 1987, and then again in 1992. As a concequence the door glass isn't as wide, like you mention. However the vent window frames can be removed and swapped out.
The interior of the 1980-1999 F-600/F-900 trucks did not change styles, and remained vitually the same throughout those 20 years, with little upgrades. As most already know, the 1980-1999 F-600/F-900 share most of the same interior parts with the 1980-1986 F-150/F-250/F-350 etc... This is why the older stuff will fit on the newer doors, but it's not quite as simple to put newer stuff on the older ones.
Hope this helps...
#35
I found that out the hard way when I first got my truck.I have door glass from an 88 F250 on the driver's side,and I didn't realize the difference until I saw that window moves side to side in the channel.It keeps the water out,so it'll work until I get some new door glass/vent windows.
#36
I could use some help from you guys. I have a 1994 F150 XLT and got hit and the door needs replacing since it's got a big hole in it and no body shop will touch it. My truck is black and I found a nice black door but it's on a 93 F150 XLT. Can I swap the 93 door onto my truck 94 truck. I'm not too concerned about wiring issues since I have the wiring manuals. More concerned with fitment. Any help would be appreciated. I"m trying to bring my truck back to loife since the insurnace company totalled it. Thanks Will
#37
I could use some help from you guys. I have a 1994 F150 XLT and got hit and the door needs replacing since it's got a big hole in it and no body shop will touch it. My truck is black and I found a nice black door but it's on a 93 F150 XLT. Can I swap the 93 door onto my truck 94 truck. I'm not too concerned about wiring issues since I have the wiring manuals. More concerned with fitment. Any help would be appreciated. I"m trying to bring my truck back to loife since the insurnace company totalled it. Thanks Will
#38
make 1 good truck out of 2
I have an 80 f350 4x4 automatic with attached transfer case ( to the trans ) . My fram e is rusty but not cracked it is an 8 ft with regular bed. I have an option to buy a clean cab and chassis from another 80 . The new 80 f350 is a dually 2 wheel drive with coil springs in front and an 8ft utility box and 4 speed . both trucks are 351 m motors. I want to use the new frame with my 4x4 suspension . are the frames the same ( drill out factory rivets and install my leaf spring suspension ) on the front and rear ...may keep the dually rear if the gear is correct ...also will the 4 speed mate up with my transfer case ?
#40
#43
Lots of great info here! I believe from what I read that what I want to do will work, but wanted to be sure before I spent the money. I am putting together an 85 F250, and have got a 92 cab. I am swapping in all of my interior, dash and all mounts for dash included, from my 85. I have found a good pair of 90's bare doors, no windows, track etc. I have 92 doors, complete but dented and 85 doors complete but rusty. Would like to have the 85 door panels. Will these go on OK? Everything is manual on all doors. And which would be the best windows, track etc. For me to use?
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