86 F700 370 4v emissions problems?
#1
86 F700 370 4v emissions problems?
I have a little single axle dumptruck that just refuses to run right. Sometimes it does ok, other times you'd swear only 5 cylinders are firing. The egr light comes on every now and again. If you rev it up and let out of it, you would think someone threw a stick of dynamite under it. It has a brand new holley oem replacement carb on it. Fuel tank has been drained, and all fuel filters replaced. Timing has been set to just about everything at one time or another, and we just can't seem to get it to run right. Cap, wires, plugs, all of that has been replaced. It is my bosses truck, but I have to drive it.
All that being said, I want to remove all of the emissions CRAP off of the motor. I know that my 300-6 has a feedback carb, and a non vacuum advanced distributor, and when the emissions are removed from it, those two issues need to be addressed. I am wanting to know what all is going to be involved in doing this to this dumptruck. I can't take it anymore. No one seems to be able to figure out the problem with this truck. It has been to a couple shops and they can't seem to do any better than we can. So- I figured I'd ask about it here, remove EVERYTHING from the motor and start from scratch. I want no emissions or smog crap at all. I know they are there for a reason, however the early to mid 80's emissions systems were primitive at best, with 2 miles of vacuum lines to fight with. Can anyone give me any help on this? Again it is an 86 F700 with a 370 and a 4 barrel. Thanks in advance to all who try!
All that being said, I want to remove all of the emissions CRAP off of the motor. I know that my 300-6 has a feedback carb, and a non vacuum advanced distributor, and when the emissions are removed from it, those two issues need to be addressed. I am wanting to know what all is going to be involved in doing this to this dumptruck. I can't take it anymore. No one seems to be able to figure out the problem with this truck. It has been to a couple shops and they can't seem to do any better than we can. So- I figured I'd ask about it here, remove EVERYTHING from the motor and start from scratch. I want no emissions or smog crap at all. I know they are there for a reason, however the early to mid 80's emissions systems were primitive at best, with 2 miles of vacuum lines to fight with. Can anyone give me any help on this? Again it is an 86 F700 with a 370 and a 4 barrel. Thanks in advance to all who try!
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I know that my 300-6 has a feedback carb, and a non vacuum advanced distributor, and when the emissions are removed from it, those two issues need to be addressed. I am wanting to know what all is going to be involved in doing this to this dumptruck.
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Same block, heads, etc as a 429 or 460 but shorter stroke I think. Many of the 370's use a govenor so I don't know what is involved with that. But, you need a vacuum advance distributor and DuraSpark II ignition if it has a computer. I'd retain the PVC. If the EGR valve is not leaking you can simply remove and plug the vacuum hose going to it. If it is leaking then that may be your problem and you can fabricate a steel block off plate to mount between the EGR and Carburetor base adaptor. You can use straight manifold vacuum for the distributor but ported advance vacuum is likely available on the carburetor. I would also retain all the vacuum hoses and components that provide hot air to the carburetor.
#5
Cool, I think I actually see a glimmer of hope. I am pretty good with the ford trucks, I just have never had any experience with this motor. Hell , truck I went and got my CDL in years ago was identical, only it had a 3208 cat motor. I really do want to believe that the truck is not a turd, guess when I get the time I'll see. Anyone else want to weigh in on this, I am all ears.
By the way, I believe it is a vacuum advance distributor, as we found that the distributor would only turn so far when we were messing with the timing. I'll look for an ignition box and post back with the findings.
By the way, I believe it is a vacuum advance distributor, as we found that the distributor would only turn so far when we were messing with the timing. I'll look for an ignition box and post back with the findings.
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I have a 79 370 F-600 and I ditched it all, put a non-EGR intake, two 1' 4-hole spacers, a 1411 Edelbrock (I'd do a 1406 next time) and a points distributor converyed with a petronix kit. it was duraspark, but the wiring had an issue, and a speed limiter messing up.
I went from 4-6 mpg and watering eyes, to 10 mpg empty and purrs like a kitten. pulls like crazy, moved from CA to MO got 5.5 MPG and grossed around 40k lbs truck and trailer (I did fry a clutch afterwards)and did 65-70 much of the trip ...except hills...
its a whole different truck now, its even quieter.
68-72 4v intake or performer 460 (non EGR)
1406 Edelbrock carb (650 CFM) with electric choke
stand alone distributor with mechanical and Vacuum advance
I would also recommend the 4-hole spacer(s) for additional torque.
the 370 shares a crank with the 429, but has a smaller bore than the 429/460
I went from 4-6 mpg and watering eyes, to 10 mpg empty and purrs like a kitten. pulls like crazy, moved from CA to MO got 5.5 MPG and grossed around 40k lbs truck and trailer (I did fry a clutch afterwards)and did 65-70 much of the trip ...except hills...
its a whole different truck now, its even quieter.
68-72 4v intake or performer 460 (non EGR)
1406 Edelbrock carb (650 CFM) with electric choke
stand alone distributor with mechanical and Vacuum advance
I would also recommend the 4-hole spacer(s) for additional torque.
the 370 shares a crank with the 429, but has a smaller bore than the 429/460
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370 not runningright..
I have a little single axle dumptruck that just refuses to run right. Sometimes it does ok, other times you'd swear only 5 cylinders are firing. The egr light comes on every now and again. If you rev it up and let out of it, you would think someone threw a stick of dynamite under it. It has a brand new holley oem replacement carb on it. Fuel tank has been drained, and all fuel filters replaced. Timing has been set to just about everything at one time or another, and we just can't seem to get it to run right. Cap, wires, plugs, all of that has been replaced. It is my bosses truck, but I have to drive it.
All that being said, I want to remove all of the emissions CRAP off of the motor. I know that my 300-6 has a feedback carb, and a non vacuum advanced distributor, and when the emissions are removed from it, those two issues need to be addressed. I am wanting to know what all is going to be involved in doing this to this dumptruck. I can't take it anymore. No one seems to be able to figure out the problem with this truck. It has been to a couple shops and they can't seem to do any better than we can. So- I figured I'd ask about it here, remove EVERYTHING from the motor and start from scratch. I want no emissions or smog crap at all. I know they are there for a reason, however the early to mid 80's emissions systems were primitive at best, with 2 miles of vacuum lines to fight with. Can anyone give me any help on this? Again it is an 86 F700 with a 370 and a 4 barrel. Thanks in advance to all who try!
All that being said, I want to remove all of the emissions CRAP off of the motor. I know that my 300-6 has a feedback carb, and a non vacuum advanced distributor, and when the emissions are removed from it, those two issues need to be addressed. I am wanting to know what all is going to be involved in doing this to this dumptruck. I can't take it anymore. No one seems to be able to figure out the problem with this truck. It has been to a couple shops and they can't seem to do any better than we can. So- I figured I'd ask about it here, remove EVERYTHING from the motor and start from scratch. I want no emissions or smog crap at all. I know they are there for a reason, however the early to mid 80's emissions systems were primitive at best, with 2 miles of vacuum lines to fight with. Can anyone give me any help on this? Again it is an 86 F700 with a 370 and a 4 barrel. Thanks in advance to all who try!
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