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Old 04-03-2008, 05:28 PM
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Honestly, that's all the response you warranted.

But, I have this too.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler produce/purchase 80% of all US auto parts ($171 billion in 2005), provide 7 million indirect jobs and spend $16,900,000,000 in R&D, which is more than any other industry.

http://www.weberchevrolet.com/sale/american.pdf

Versus the Japanese manufacturers who have purchased $48.8 billion in auto parts from U.S. parts manufacturers.

Japan's Automobile Manufacturers — A New American Dynamic. JAMA Brochures.

But facts don't count for much around here.
 
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Originally Posted by Big Bad
Honestly, that's all the response you warrated.

But, I have this too.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler produce/purchase 80% of all US auto parts ($171 billion in 2005), provide 7 million indirect jobs and spend $16,900,000,000 in R&D, which is more than any other industry.

http://www.weberchevrolet.com/sale/american.pdf

Versus the Japanese manufacturers who have purchased $48.8 billion in auto parts from U.S. parts manufacturers.

Japan's Automobile Manufacturers — A New American Dynamic. JAMA Brochures.

But facts don't count for much around here.
OK?......and who asked for this info?



Look, you said in post #349, "Try a new post, as your post has already been refuted by facts."

You were incorrect, as proven in (my) post #358.


But hey, thanks for the great info anyway....
 
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RocketScience
OK?......and who asked for this info?

Look, you said in post #349, "Try a new post, as your post has already been refuted by facts."

You were incorrect, as proven in (my) post #358.

But hey, thanks for the great info anyway....
Since you are so fond of recycling old posts, I'll give you a hand.

"That's IT?......That's all you got???"

Let's do a quick recap to see if I am incorrect, shall we?

Originally Posted by RocketScience
Toyota takes some of their profits and builds factories here in the US, creating thousands of American jobs. While Ford on the otherhand, takes some of their profits, and builds factories in Mexico, creating thousands of Mexican jobs, all, while closing plants here in the US.
While true, this is only a small part of the story. These "facts" look quite a bit different when looked at in conjunction with this:
http://www.weberchevrolet.com/sale/american.pdf
and this:
http://www.levelfieldinstitute.org/f...d_v_Toyota.pdf
and this:
Originally Posted by Big Bad
Ford, GM, and Chrysler produce/purchase 80% of all US auto parts ($171 billion in 2005), provide 7 million indirect jobs and spend $16,900,000,000 in R&D, which is more than any other industry.
Already addressed.

Originally Posted by RocketScience
"Toyota takes some of their profits and builds factories here in the US, creating thousands of American jobs..."
Fact #1
As of June 2007, Toyota has stated that there are no plans to expand American manufacturing. Toyota also stated they intend to focus their attention on exports from Japan in the future. That means once the MS plant is up and running there are not going to be any more Toyota assembly plants being constructed in the U.S. for the forseeable future. Already stated in this thread and I have provided links to this press release in the past. Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Single Post - Toyota's REGRET

That leaves Toyota with 4 U.S. plants total. Already addressed.

"....While Ford on the otherhand, takes some of their profits, and builds factories in Mexico, creating thousands of Mexican jobs...."
Fact #2

"....all, while closing plants here in the US..."
Fact #3
Ford has 10 U.S. plants, and will continue to have more than Toyota for the forseeable future. Already addressed.

"....and ONLY supported the "Big Three" (oops, I guess that's the "big Two" now)?..."
No relevance.

"...So now , in the interim, in order for me to be patriotic and support American workers and the American economy, I drive an American-made Toyota (made in California)..."
Fact #5
No relevance.


"...my import Super Duty (made in Mexico)..."
No relevance.


"...and only drive my import Super Duty when my friends aren't looking."
Fact #7
No relevance.

Now, let's go back to what I said for a second:
Originally Posted by Big Bad
Absolutely pathetic. This post contains nothing but "facts" that have either been recently adressed or are irrelevant in context to the discussion at hand.
It doesn't seem that I was incorrect.
 
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Old 04-04-2008, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Bad
....It doesn't seem that I was incorrect.
Boy, you just ain't gettin' it, are you?...

This little debate you and I got going here (as silly as it is) isn't about whether or not comments stated in my post (#344) had "no relevance" or had been "already addressed" with regards to the thread topic, it was about YOU refuting the facts in post #344. Here is your response to post #344 again, in case you forgot:
Originally Posted by Big Bad
Try a new post, as your post [#344] has already been refuted by facts.
In post #358, I proved to you (line by line) that my comments in post #344 were indeed supported by facts, and based solely on your statement above, as it relates to said post, you were incorrect, and still are.
 
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Deleted. Not worth continuing this idiotic debate.
 
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Wow when you prove them wrong they hide right in their shell.
 
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Old 04-05-2008, 10:49 AM
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Wow when you prove them wrong they hide right in their shell.
Who???

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