plug in for winter, engine block or oil pan heater?
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I've always noticed a BIG difference when it gets really cold - but not until its usually less than 0-15 deg F or so. I spent seven years in North Dakota going to school and teaching and when it got down in the -30 to -40 range my power steering pump would make a VERY loud whine noise initially on startup, then quiet down, and it would turn over noticeably slower, plug in my truck and it would turn over much faster and whine a lot less in the cold. Even when I couldn't hear the difference I think it makes a big difference having things that much warmer, oil moves faster, things less prone to breaking when they're that cold etc.
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Suggest you figure out if you have an "engine block or oil pan heater" & determine if the bloody thing actually works first. FORD offered only a block heater as an accessory. A simple VOM can show you if the unit is dead. Once you know what you have & where it is you may be able to feel for warmth. I'd guess FORD's block heater should make the antifreeze warm, providing faster start & warm up, instant defrost capability, and melt snow off the hood, in an unheated garage down to 0. Brand X might not, but if its -30 & a heater can bring it up to just +30 that's a major advantage for economy & emissions.
If your engine heater is functional, you do realize that its NOT instant help-like a 'jump start' or spray of starter fluid? It can take hours for the small heater elements to do their work. In severe winter conditions you leave them plugged in overnight & still might want to cover at least the grille & park out of the wind.
In Sweden I drove a Volvo Wagon that had a built in gas 'furnace' & simple timer on the dash. It sipped gas right out of the tank & you'd set it to go on as little as 10-15 minutes before you'd leave. I'm sure they've got remote & phone actived as well. The car would be 'steaming' when you got in no matter how cold or windy. Only rarely ever seen these in the US, perhaps our Canadian members have them?
Originally Posted by SnowHiker
when i plug in my truck i cant tell any difference when i start it.
In Sweden I drove a Volvo Wagon that had a built in gas 'furnace' & simple timer on the dash. It sipped gas right out of the tank & you'd set it to go on as little as 10-15 minutes before you'd leave. I'm sure they've got remote & phone actived as well. The car would be 'steaming' when you got in no matter how cold or windy. Only rarely ever seen these in the US, perhaps our Canadian members have them?
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If I were you I'de go with a block heater. Todays oils are so thin even in sub zero temps(where I am in northern MN) they flow fine. An oil heater won't do you much good. Whereas a block heater heats the coolant in the entire block(not just the oil in the oil pan). go with the block heater!!
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Originally Posted by Club Wagon
In Sweden I drove a Volvo Wagon that had a built in gas 'furnace' & simple timer on the dash. It sipped gas right out of the tank & you'd set it to go on as little as 10-15 minutes before you'd leave. I'm sure they've got remote & phone actived as well. The car would be 'steaming' when you got in no matter how cold or windy. Only rarely ever seen these in the US, perhaps our Canadian members have them?
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Originally Posted by Club Wagon
In Sweden I drove a Volvo Wagon that had a built in gas 'furnace' & simple timer on the dash. It sipped gas right out of the tank & you'd set it to go on as little as 10-15 minutes before you'd leave. I'm sure they've got remote & phone actived as well. The car would be 'steaming' when you got in no matter how cold or windy. Only rarely ever seen these in the US, perhaps our Canadian members have them?
Originally Posted by montanafordman
That being said both of these designs have their issues as well - mostly with carbon monoxide dangers and overheating of the combustion heater/carbon monoxide etc. Liquid cooled engines are a happy medium between the two without the CO risk.
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I wasn't aware that they were outlawed - they are still available on Airplanes but they are subject to REGULAR maintenance and inspection with many other aircraft components - I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't legal for domestic autos though - it would probably be easier to mandate domestic cars must be heated by other means than make the consumer regularly inspect/repair it besides I image the liability would be great especially since most consumers wouldn't bother getting educated on the CO risks or pay for having it checked at regular intervals.
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If you install an oil pan heater you will notice a change in the way the truck starts when it gets below -20F. Personally I prefer the oil pan heater over the freeze plug because with the oil pan heater the heat will radiate up through the engine, plus even though the new oils say they flow at low temperatures I have tried to add a quart of 5-20 oil that was in the back of my truck at -25F, I managed to squeeze about 1/2 a quart out. it flowed about like honey.
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