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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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12 volt constant on self test

86 f150 300 i6. when I try to do a self test using both the haynes and fordfuelinjection.com versions it doesn't flash it just shows a constant 12 volts any clue
 
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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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Just use your CEL light and count the flashes. There is no need to use a meter.

If the light stays off and never flashes when KOEO PCM Quick Test is initiated, then there is a problem related to the operation of the PCM.

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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86 f150 300 i6. when I try to do a self test using both the haynes and fordfuelinjection.com versions it doesn't flash it just shows a constant 12 volts any clue
Are you putting your meter between the Tan wire with a red strip (from EEC Module pin #17) and ground on the test connector?
Are you then grounding the white wire with a red stripe at the self-test connector (from EEC Module pin #48) and then turning on the key?
You can use the Black wire with a white stripe at the test connector for ground.
 

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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Just use your CEL light and count the flashes. There is no need to use a meter.

If the light stays off and never flashes when KOEO PCM Quick Test is initiated, then there is a problem related to the operation of the PCM.

Steve
I do not think he has a CEL.
He will have to use a meter (no test light) as I think a test light will blow the 2K resister that is between battery voltage and the test point.

12V is normal at the test point when the EEC Module is not running the self-test.



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Old Nov 24, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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How big is the resistor? If you grounded out the tan/red wire, that would put 12 volts across the 2k resistor. 12v divided by 2000 ohms =.006amps through the resistor. 12v x .006a =.072 watts. An 1/8 watt resistor would handle it, though a 1/4 watt would be even better.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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How big is the resistor? If you grounded out the tan/red wire, that would put 12 volts across the 2k resistor. 12v divided by 2000 ohms =.006amps through the resistor. 12v x .006a =.072 watts. An 1/8 watt resistor would handle it, though a 1/4 watt would be even better.
It looks to be a 1/4 Watt. So you could use a test light.



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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 08:37 AM
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sorry for the slow reply. Ok I tried the test again and still its constant 12 volts but I noticed that even with the keys in my pocket it still constant 12 volts. maybe its a bad ground?
 
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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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By the way the right way to hook the meter to the self-test connector is to hook the positive wire of the meter to the positive post of the battery and the negative wire to the test connector. Also the test light if used should be between the positive post of the battery and the test connector.

The above diagram was for a discussion we were having about the resister and you getting 12 volts at the test connector.

That said I would pull your EEC Power Relay and see if the 12 volts goes away. If not check to see if somebody has bypassed the relay.

Also make sure the black wire with a green stripe is well grounded at the negative post of the battery.
 

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Old Nov 27, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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I was just wondering why you were trying to do the self-test.
Is the engine running bad?
I take it you do not have FI.
I was thinking that you may have a bad ECU Computer but not sure what to look for on a non-FI truck with no SPOUT shorting bar and that has a TFI ignition.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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Yes actually it is its has stalled a couple of times when when coming to a stop or already stopped. besides I just got it and was doing the whole look over to identify any unknown issues!
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Sounds like the EGR valve may be stuck open.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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Or possibly the classic gummed up throttle body and IAC valve.
 
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