Wow! just found numerous trouble areas
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Wow! just found numerous trouble areas
O.K. drove the truck on 860 mile round trip last weekend pulling heavy trailer/load no problem. Drove it to work this past week no problem. Parked it Friday afternoon, as I always do I look underneathe every time I walk past it to see if anything is leaking. Three times I looked Saturday and it was dry as a bone. Today (Sunday) I noticed an oil spot on the drive and antifreeze as well. Found where I think the oil leak is coming from and coolant as well, pics attached. Then, I start looking at the belt and it has a piece on the side that is frayed (no idea how to spell) and I pull it off. Although very small I'm concerned, the belt looks good otherwise. While the engine is running one of the pulleys/wheel the belt goes around looks as if it's not turning perfectly straight, kind of a little wobble. It's the 2nd biggest pulley/wheel above the biggest one, I think it is the one on the water pump. I really don't want to drive it right now, I can see when the engine is running the water spitting out of the thermostat neck where it attaches to the water pump. I think it's the original thermostat neck so it probably needs replaced. PLEASE look at the pics and give me advice on what to and how to fix. Also, where to get parts. Oh yeah, a couple of pics I wasn't even sure what it was but it didn't look good so I took a pic. The pic where there are two lines you are lookng at through a hols and the one where it is some kind of connection to where I think oil goes to the oil filter. Man, I feel pretty dumb about now!
Wow, I thought the truck was in pretty good shape but now I'm kind of freaked.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys!
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Wow, I thought the truck was in pretty good shape but now I'm kind of freaked.
Thanks in advance for all your help guys!
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Last edited by tndiesel; 11-18-2007 at 07:10 PM.
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The leak near the oil filter is the oil cooler. it has o-rings in there to seal. its resealable with a few hours work. here is a kit to reseal it
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/p...catalogid=3660
the two lines you show are the fuel lines up to the engine. its very possible though that the oil cooler is leaking on the front as it is the rear and the engine fan is blowing the oil around.
The belt could just be a fluke but on my 95 I kept sheering off one rib and never could fis it so I just ran with one less rib. Remove the belt and check all the pulleys for loose bearings.
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/p...catalogid=3660
the two lines you show are the fuel lines up to the engine. its very possible though that the oil cooler is leaking on the front as it is the rear and the engine fan is blowing the oil around.
The belt could just be a fluke but on my 95 I kept sheering off one rib and never could fis it so I just ran with one less rib. Remove the belt and check all the pulleys for loose bearings.
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BTW if you do the thermostat put the 203* stat from here
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=186
http://www.dieselsite.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=186
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O.K. lets see. picture #1: looks like oil pan bolt (possibly oil pan gasket, try tightening bolts, running down from somewhere above)
Picture #2: oil cooler o-ring leaking (if it's no dripping I would not take it apart)
Picture #3: piece off of your belt, you need a new belt AFTER you fix the problem (missed aligned pulley eating the side of the belt)
Picture #4: looks like a power steering line but hard to tell fron the picture.
Take the belt off and spin each pulley by hand and see if they spin straight. Also shake each pulley in and out, up and down, side to side, checking for play.
Water coming out of the thermostat neck. Hole in neck? Loose bolts? Loose hose clamp?
Also picture of the pulley you are talking about would help. Let us know.
Picture #2: oil cooler o-ring leaking (if it's no dripping I would not take it apart)
Picture #3: piece off of your belt, you need a new belt AFTER you fix the problem (missed aligned pulley eating the side of the belt)
Picture #4: looks like a power steering line but hard to tell fron the picture.
Take the belt off and spin each pulley by hand and see if they spin straight. Also shake each pulley in and out, up and down, side to side, checking for play.
Water coming out of the thermostat neck. Hole in neck? Loose bolts? Loose hose clamp?
Also picture of the pulley you are talking about would help. Let us know.
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Originally Posted by tjbeggs
The leak near the oil filter is the oil cooler. it has o-rings in there to seal. its resealable with a few hours work. here is a kit to reseal it
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=357017&siteid =214083&catalogid=3660
the two lines you show are the fuel lines up to the engine. its very possible though that the oil cooler is leaking on the front as it is the rear and the engine fan is blowing the oil around.
The belt could just be a fluke but on my 95 I kept sheering off one rib and never could fis it so I just ran with one less rib. Remove the belt and check all the pulleys for loose bearings.
http://catalog.powerstrokeshop.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=MorePartInfo&PartID=357017&siteid =214083&catalogid=3660
the two lines you show are the fuel lines up to the engine. its very possible though that the oil cooler is leaking on the front as it is the rear and the engine fan is blowing the oil around.
The belt could just be a fluke but on my 95 I kept sheering off one rib and never could fis it so I just ran with one less rib. Remove the belt and check all the pulleys for loose bearings.
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I would guess all the oil you see is from the oil cooler. When you do the cooler reseal yes you will drain the oil and coolant. For the oil just use a clean bucket and put it back. same for coolant if your careful. The oil cooler bolts to the block in the rear and to the timing cover in the front. its not to bad of a job just messy with coolant and oil running everywhere. also getting the tube and both headers back together can be tough to do. it take constant even pressure. not sure if there are any write-ups around.
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Originally Posted by plowhand
O.K. lets see. picture #1: looks like oil pan bolt (possibly oil pan gasket, try tightening bolts, running down from somewhere above)
Picture #2: oil cooler o-ring leaking (if it's no dripping I would not take it apart)
Picture #3: piece off of your belt, you need a new belt AFTER you fix the problem (missed aligned pulley eating the side of the belt)
Picture #4: looks like a power steering line but hard to tell fron the picture.
Take the belt off and spin each pulley by hand and see if they spin straight. Also shake each pulley in and out, up and down, side to side, checking for play.
Water coming out of the thermostat neck. Hole in neck? Loose bolts? Loose hose clamp?
Also picture of the pulley you are talking about would help. Let us know.
Picture #2: oil cooler o-ring leaking (if it's no dripping I would not take it apart)
Picture #3: piece off of your belt, you need a new belt AFTER you fix the problem (missed aligned pulley eating the side of the belt)
Picture #4: looks like a power steering line but hard to tell fron the picture.
Take the belt off and spin each pulley by hand and see if they spin straight. Also shake each pulley in and out, up and down, side to side, checking for play.
Water coming out of the thermostat neck. Hole in neck? Loose bolts? Loose hose clamp?
Also picture of the pulley you are talking about would help. Let us know.
I think I will replace the thermostat neck because this one is 10 years old. On the DirectFordparts site it's listed for $20.
When I drain the oil should I drop oil pan and replace gasket?
Where do I get another oil pan gasket, Napa?
I will only be able to work on the truck tomorrow afternoon and all day Wednesday, so I hope I can finish it by Wednesday night. Any places to get the thermostat neck besides where I stated--let me know.
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Don't remove the pan. It is sealed by a special international silicone not a gasket. The engine has to be removed for the job to be done right. Make 100% shure the pan is leaking before you sweat it. You can get the belt from NAPA. Mine cost around $50 so be prepared. There is a tensioner(sorry can't spell) that holds the belt on. I'm shure someone will have a pict.
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Originally Posted by 61 uni
Don't remove the pan. It is sealed by a special international silicone not a gasket. The engine has to be removed for the job to be done right. Make 100% shure the pan is leaking before you sweat it. You can get the belt from NAPA. Mine cost around $50 so be prepared. There is a tensioner(sorry can't spell) that holds the belt on. I'm shure someone will have a pict.
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Usually with the tensioners there is a square hole in them that you put a 1/2" drive ratchet or breaker bar into, then pull on it to release the tension and remove the belt. Not sure on the PSD, but I don't know why it would be any different than most of the other tensioners I've messed with. Also, the tensioner is usually the smallest pulley, which makes it easy to spot.