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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:35 AM
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engine ID help

Posted this in the 66' forum and thought i should maybe have put here.Pulled my engine this weekend too clean and install in diff.truck and here is what i found.

facing back of block- large ''A'' on left top,C4AE on heads,facing front of engine 05AE-A & 5HK4-6? not to sure about the 6,top of block below head same side K11R and on the right side SS2624 to the right of the water pump.Could find no numbers around the oil filter boss.

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Looks like standard issue 1965 stuff. Do you have a casting number off the side of the block, above left of the front feeze plug on the driver side (I think). If you can, pull the oil pan and grab the number off the crank, that will tell you better as to what's inside, and that's what counts...

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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Those are all the numbers i could find on the block.It also has brass head gaskets.I will not be pulling the pan off as it is all painted and ready too drop in.Won't touch it till i need too because it runs like a top.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Can you get the number off the harmonic balancer and a picture of the transmission end of the crankshaft?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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05AE is actually C5AE = first casting in 1965.

1965/67 352 damper = C3AZ-6312-E ~ Marked: C4AE-6316-A / 6 5/8" diameter.

There's no such thing as brass head gaskets. They're either steel or a composition of steel and asbestos. The edges of these composition gaskets have a copper hue to them.

The use of composition head gaskets lowers the compression ratio.
 

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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I guess the O is could be a C but i cleaned it carefully and it is defineitly a ''O''.As for the head gaskets they are not a composite and they are not steel.This is a Mercury engine not Ford.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Rogue40 it has a steel crank,not a cast one like the 352's have.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Could be a copper head gasket.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Merc or Ford same parts for block, heads, intake and internals.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by merc390
I guess the O is could be a C but i cleaned it carefully and it is defineitly a ''O''.As for the head gaskets they are not a composite and they are not steel.This is a Mercury engine not Ford.
There's no such thing as an 0/O for the first letter of the prefix. That 0/O was cased by a bad die.

Ford numbering system

A = 1940's

B = 1950's

C = decade = 1960's / 5 = year / A = Ford / E = casting/engineering

D = 1970's

E = 1980's

F = 1990's

Original Ford FE head gaskets are either steel (C8AZ-6051-A) or composition (C6AZ-6051-A) there's isn't anything else. Not either? What you have are aftermarket copper head gaskets.

Ford-Mercury FE engine same-o same-o. There's not one specific Mercury part number in any 352/390 engine.
 

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Old Nov 14, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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Rogue40 it has a steel crank,not a cast one like the 352's have.
The type and number from the harmonic balancer and the shape of the crank flange can yield clues as to what the motor actually is.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 06:32 AM
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The Ford HP interchange lists the C5AE-A as either a 390 or a 427 block, look and see if there's Three 3/8" (9/16" heads) bolts screwed in the side of the block (3 per side) just above the oil pan. These would be 427 cross bolts and indicate it's a 427. The "SS2624" on the front is strange to me and it could be some sort of race 427 block maybe.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Rogue40 it has a steel crank,not a cast one like the 352's have.
I would have to argue this point, what indications do you have to show it as a forged unit?
--Mike
 
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Old Nov 15, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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The Ford HP interchange lists the C5AE-A as either a 390 or a 427 block, look and see if there's Three 3/8" (9/16" heads) bolts screwed in the side of the block (3 per side) just above the oil pan. These would be 427 cross bolts and indicate it's a 427. The "SS2624" on the front is strange to me and it could be some sort of race 427 block maybe.
I'm no expert by any stretch but the "A" fingernailed in the back of the block also indicates a 427 or 428 and the head number could be for a 427 high riser.
But even on a good day I find Fords numbers confusing at best.
 
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Originally Posted by rogue40
I'm no expert by any stretch but the "A" fingernailed in the back of the block also indicates a 427 or 428 and the head number could be for a 427 high riser.
But even on a good day I find Fords numbers confusing at best.
No 428 in 65 so I doubt it's a 428 block. Also if the block is a hyd lifter block it's not a 427. This beside the crossbolts BD mentioned. The "SS2624" I'll bet is a rebuilders stamp. XK and SK were the Ford experimential prefixes. If your seeing a SK on the block that's a different story. But SS no. Unless it means "Super Special"......J/K.
 
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