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Old 11-11-2007, 01:35 AM
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i thought nobody makes superchargers anymore, cause of a lack of interest or something ?? But vortech sells them on there site (except for 2002 v10 ??). And paxton seems to have them aswell
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 07:24 AM
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Different types of blowers have different characteristics. A centrifugal type always makes the most HP per psi, but the lowest torque numbers also. A centri is a poor choice for this application, because there is almost nothing to gain at the lower hallf of the RPM range, it's all on the top end. That just isn't where most guys with V-10's want the improvments.
A turbo gives the most gains in this application, but tends to cost more, and be more complicated to install. 8PSI with a correctly sized turbo, is like 12PSI on a centri.
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 09:18 AM
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No, I really hate spending the big bucks. Its not that I can't, I just don't like to do it. I much prefer to build it myself, hence the appeal of the turbo system. I can fab the system myself and get it exactly like I want.

I was thinking of modifying my existing crank to make it a stroker, not have a new one made from scratch. I'm sure there are quite a few people who could handle that, but $1000 may still be too low.

FordCrusherGT. I like the way you think! 2 engines, 15psi, accelerator stuck to the floor. yee-haw!!

Anyhow, I just like turbos better. Anybody can bolt on a supercharger (theoretically anyhow), but a turbo setup shows off your fabrication ability. That, and I like the turbo whistle I used to get with my diesel. I used to be able to maintain speed without ever looking at the speedo cause I got so used to the turbo whistling at certain pitch at certain speed.
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 05:54 PM
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what is so different about 2002 v10s (which i have, or maybe not because i blew up the 1st one) that vortech cant make a supercharger work. i thought it was the same as the other 2 valvers
 
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Old 11-11-2007, 11:51 PM
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im not so sure on the centri being a poor choice the v10 already likes to be higher in the rpm range so you really dont see the bottom rpms often i dont see low rpms anytime except driving down the freeway otherwise i would have to pull my foot out of it to see the rpms where there is no boost hahaha
 
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Old 11-12-2007, 10:45 AM
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would you have to run 91 in a turbo v10 like on a supercharger?
 
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Old 11-12-2007, 11:07 AM
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Yes, you would need to run premium.
 
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What about running a 2.6l Kenne Bell or other make Lightning roots supercharger. Fab up a custom aluminum intake, intercooler piping and etc. That should provide hp and torque down low. Those 2.6l units are capable of over 20 lbs of boost.
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:23 AM
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Ive looked at paxton and vortech at $5k & $7k respectively. Ive seen single turbo DIY installs for under $2k. Bump that to $3k and I think a very respectible single or cheap twin setup could be done. I'm not looking for MASSIVE power like the mustang guys, just a good solid increase over stock. I'm thinking a pair of buick GNX style turbos could be had on the cheap, keep the boost to 6-8 psi until I can get the forged pistons and rods. The GNX turbo fed a 3.8L, so a pair would be able to feed 7.6L, more than enough for a 6.8L and my requirements.
 
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Ive looked at paxton and vortech at $5k & $7k respectively. Ive seen single turbo DIY installs for under $2k. Bump that to $3k and I think a very respectible single or cheap twin setup could be done.
Exactly. I can't imagine a $1000 being too little for some exhaust fabrication.

If you're doing the rest of the work yourself anyway...
 
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Old 11-17-2007, 04:07 PM
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I'll be doing all the work myself except possibly the tuning side of it. I'll have to look for a cost benefit ratio of buying the software to tune myself or let someone else do it. I think if I was going for a max effort, 1/4 mile demon, I would let someone else do the tuning, but for my needs, I can get it done myself. Plus having the software makes the next turbo build even cheaper.

Remember that 71 mustang convertible I was talking about earlier... I was originally going to go 4.6 or 5.4 DOHC with it, but now knowing I'm just 4+ inches longer than those mills, I can fit a v10 in there and still have room for a turbo setup. Now talk about an unusal build, not everbody is doing swaps like that. Ever seen the hood on the 71-73's? Lets just say I could probably get a v12 in there with little modification.

It seems to me I saw a magazine car, Mercury Grand Marquis that someone had swapped in a 99 v10 and had a remote mount turbo on it that ran low 10's. May have been twins on it, can't remember, but that was the only mod to the engine was the turbo or turbos. I think they were running the stock tranny too! I'm sure that didn't last long.
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:14 AM
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does anybody know why u cant supercharge 2002s with a vortech? i really am dying to know why my year was left out.
 
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Old 11-18-2007, 10:44 AM
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Sent an email to vortech questioning the 2002 discrepancy. I'll post their reply if I get an answer.
 
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cool. thanks.
 
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