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Originally Posted by gier-head
I have a 1978 140 wb F350. Of course it isn't badged as a SCS. So is it technically a SCS or just a 140 wb F350? I have had people tell me conflicting
stories. So it is a SCS or not? I would sure like to know so I can tell other people without a hesitation of doubt that is a SCS or not. Thanks!
Nope...not really,
The SCS was more than emblems...it had a wiring harness under the bed for a camper to plug into...dual batt. trans cooler... oil cooler...and the infamous spare wheel well in the bed along with some other things like beefier suspension and rear end. Do a search and youll find lots of info on what makes a SCS a SCS.

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[QUOTE=73f350sc]
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Nope...not really,
The SCS was more than emblems...it had a wiring harness under the bed for a camper to plug into...dual batt. trans cooler... oil cooler...and the infamous spare wheel well in the bed along with some other things like beefier suspension and rear end. Do a search and youll find lots of info on what makes a SCS a SCS.

-Chris
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Sorry Bill...
I have no idea what happened there..but I fixed it =) I think its cause gier-head messed up a quote...and then I quoted the tag he used...
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Back to the ol F350 4x4 not having a D60 rear end. Just a couple of posts to prove that I am not crazy.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...60&postcount=8

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...3&postcount=15
 
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Originally Posted by masterbeavis
Back to the ol F350 4x4 not having a D60 rear end. Just a couple of posts to prove that I am not crazy.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...60&postcount=8

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/s...3&postcount=15
I don't care who posted what. Ford never offered a Dana 60 rear axle in an F350. The first F350 4WD wasn't introduced till 1979! The page from the 1973/79 parts catalog was posted...see any Dana 60's listed for F350's? You won't because Ford never offered it...unless under a Domestic Special Order.

Like I posted before, the Dana 60's and 70's look very much alike, and some ppl with F350's not knowing this, might think their rear axle is a Dana 60. A simple AXLE decode will prove what I say. NO Dana 60's in F350's.
 

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Originally Posted by bucks77ford
Axle Codes.
Bump...here's the info again.
 
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I don't care who posted what. Ford never offered a Dana 60 rear axle in an F350. The first F350 4WD wasn't introduced till 1979! The page from the 1973/79 parts catalog was posted...see any Dana 60's listed for F350's? You won't because Ford never offered it...unless under a Domestic Special Order.

Like I posted before, the Dana 60's and 70's look very much alike, and some ppl with F350's not knowing this, might think their rear axle is a Dana 60. A simple AXLE decode will prove what I say. NO Dana 60's in F350's.
I am glad you are sticking to your guns, er books. Decoce this VIN for me so you can prove I was wrong. I had to dig my way to the bottom of a scarp metal dumpster and cut this out from the inside of the cab, this was not easy. (I had pics of this before it went into the box, but the memory card went haywire.)

This is a genuine 1979 F350 4x4 VIN plate and Door sticker. My aim was off with the grinder, I cut right thru the sticker *DOOH*



All you folks who thought I was a liar, or stupid can go ahead and leave me a *positive* reputation point.
 
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2 things from me 1 a qustion the other a statement.I don't know so I'm asking how can someone tell from the tags u took a pic of that said trk was a 4 wheel drive (is it the F36 in the VIN) and 2nd I'm really surprised that they made f350's (some trks) with that light a frt GVW for a D60



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I am glad you are sticking to your guns, er books. Decoce this VIN for me so you can prove I was wrong. I had to dig my way to the bottom of a scarp metal dumpster and cut this out from the inside of the cab, this was not easy. (I had pics of this before it went into the box, but the memory card went haywire.)

This is a genuine 1979 F350 4x4 VIN plate and Door sticker. My aim was off with the grinder, I cut right thru the sticker *DOOH*



All you folks who thought I was a liar, or stupid can go ahead and leave me a *positive* reputation point.
 
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The first three digits of the VIN#

F35 = F350 4x2

F36- F350 4x4 (79)

F37= F350 Cab & Chassis 4x2

F38 = F350 Cab & Chassis 4x4 (79)
 
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I don't know about a liar, but crazy, yes...

All this shows is a flaw in the VIN Decoder, which does happen.
 
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A flaw in the VIN decoder, or a company wide flaw in all of FOMOCO's literature? The vin decoder does however say that the motor the 400 was a 4 barrel from the factory? That is a trip. Makes me wonder why the previous owner installed an edelbrock SP2P on it.

Still waiting on the "experts" to comment on this alleged D60 in a 1 ton irregularity??

Your VIN number: F36SREJ0626 <table style="border: 1px solid rgb(153, 0, 0);" align="center" width="600"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" style="padding-left: 55px;">Your Model Year is 1979.</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#0099cc" height="1">
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: 15px;" width="40%">Truck Series:</td> <td>Unknown, Please double check VIN number</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#0099cc" height="1">
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: 15px;">Engine:</td> <td>V8 - 400cid, 4BBL carb, 167-177 HP</td> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" bgcolor="#0099cc" height="1">
</td></tr> <tr> <td style="padding-left: 15px;">Assembly on:</td> <td>San Jose, CA</td></tr></tbody></table>
 
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Originally Posted by 78f250supercab
2 things from me 1 a qustion the other a statement.I don't know so I'm asking how can someone tell from the tags u took a pic of that said trk was a 4 wheel drive (is it the F36 in the VIN) and 2nd I'm really surprised that they made f350's (some trks) with that light a frt GVW for a D60
I can't make out this AXLE tag code's first digit. All I can make out is the 4A portion. Try rubbing the code with a black marker. The A is: adjustable steering column with power steering. This is a San Jose assembled F350 (R) and was sold out of the San Jose District Sales Zone (72) which covers all of NorCal.

I've NEVER claimed to be an expert on anything. (IMO, an expert is some person who skims thru one book on whatever interest he/she has, and then thinks they know it all). I can read a parts catalog and post what I see. No one pays me a cent to look up all this stuff, it's my choice to be here. I never said anyone was stupid, or called anyone a liar here on FTE, or on any of the other 6 forums I'm on. I did call someone a scheisskopf on titantalk recently, but the putz was a troll, and was soon banned.

There were no four barrel carbs available for 400 engines on cars or trucks..ever. There's no record in the: 1965/72; 1973/79 car parts catalogs, or the 1973/79 truck parts catalog on any such thing as a 400 4V.

I've never looked at any of the FTE VIN decoders, and where FTE gets their info for those decoders I haven't a klew.
 

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I went thru the entire list of rear end codes listed in the 1973/79 parts catalog that have a 4 as the second digit. This one posted appears to be R4A, but there's no such thing.

This is what I found: Letter/Number.

B4 = Dana 60 1973/79

B4 = Dana 61-1 1975/77

H4 = Ford 9 Inch

Y'all can squint at the parts catalogs for hours..see if you can find any definitive proof of Dana 60's in an F350. I have things to do besides fiddle with part numbers. It's Waldo, Lady and Gideons day tomorrow.
 

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It looks like a B4 to me. If you look at the sticker on the column, the rear GWVR matches that of a D60 rear end, 5300#. If this isnt proof enough (proof that cannot be changed out during 30+ years of existance) then I don't know what is.

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I've NEVER claimed to be an expert on anything. (IMO, an expert is some person who skims thru one book on whatever interest he/she has, and then thinks they know it all). I can read a parts catalog and post what I see. No one pays me a cent to look up all this stuff, it's my choice to be here. I never said anyone was stupid, or called anyone a liar here on FTE, or on any of the other 6 forums I'm on. I did call someone a scheisskopf on titantalk recently, but the putz was a troll, and was soon banned.
For somebody who never claimed to be an expert, you seemed to have made your claim vs. my claim with a certain authority of how dare you question my authority on this subject.
don't care who posted what. Ford never offered a Dana 60 rear axle in an F350. The first F350 4WD wasn't introduced till 1979! The page from the 1973/79 parts catalog was posted...see any Dana 60's listed for F350's? You won't because Ford never offered it...unless under a Domestic Special Order.

Like I posted before, the Dana 60's and 70's look very much alike, and some ppl with F350's not knowing this, might think their rear axle is a Dana 60. A simple AXLE decode will prove what I say. NO Dana 60's in F350's.
I will be the first to admit that having somebody such as yourself or Dennis around to supply us with information of yesterdays past is a great asset to the forum, and both of you guys have proven helpfull to me. In case I did not say it out loud before, Thank you.

There were no four barrel carbs available for 400 engines on cars or trucks..ever. There's no record in the: 1965/72; 1973/79 car parts catalogs, or the 1973/79 truck parts catalog on any such thing as a 400 4V.
I have never seen the 4V manifold, the 4V 351m/400 is another 73-79 urban legend, (78 or 79 CHP bronco) just like the factory 460 4x4, or a FE 4x4 that is a 390 from the factory.

When I had a chance to prove somebody who is considered very knowledgable wrong, I jumped at the chance. I had to fish this truck cab out of the 30 yard dumpster at the junkyard, it was covered and filled with junk. (I wanted the tilt column, brake booster, clutch pedal assembly, and parts of the roof for cancer repair, but we will stick with I only wanted to cut it apart to get to the VIN )




So, considering the effort I had to go thru, is it possible to concede that a '79 F350 4X4 had a D60 rear, from the factory, despite what the catalogs say?
 

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