You and me both. IMO they might be cheaper, but you get what you pay for. and im glad to hear the problems with toyota and i still dont feel sorry.

 

I study car accidents and truck wrecks and those foreign garbage are junks in wrecks..

I rather be in something that has more meat to it then that crap

 

Umm, I thought people were complaining how expensive the Tundra was...

Tim

 

Yea thats great, good to hear tho. We went down to knoxville to find a house and hopefully get away from the state wide ressession up here and high cost of living. But we desided to ride it out and hope for the best.

 

There 1000's of posts on FTE explaining why. It's sad, but the Big 3 have only themselves to blame.

The Big 3 handed the passenger car market to the Japanese in the 1980's on a silver platter.

The Big 3 built a lotta crappy cars in the 1970's & 1980's. The quality was the pits.

The Big 3 and the UAW stood idly by while the Japanese, and other foreign companies opened assembly plants in the US without a union presence.

It all had to do with arrogance, plain and simple.

No one thought back then that the Japanese would make a go of it here.

They figured that the American consumer would tire of econoboxes.

They figured that the Japanese would just fold the tent and head back to Japan.

They figured wrong.

 

Knoxville is a nice area...I'm about 45 minutes northeast from there...

Tim

 

Yea we looked towards the strawberry plains area. We could not find a house that wasnt in a sub dividion it was crazy. We are use to the nearest house being across the field and this was like sharing driveways lol. Beautiful area tho i had a BLAST in the mountains and in gatlinberg.

 

Tell that to the American consumer, who have bought millions of them since 1966.

I'm no fan of Toyota. I have never owned one, have no plan to do so...but facts are facts.

By the way...do you shop at Wal-Mart or Target? Where are your electronics and appliances made?

Most of this crap is now Made in China.

Buying all this stuff sure doesn't help the US economy much, considering the US has a Multi-Billion Dollar Trade Deficit vis a vis China.

It's a Global Economy today...like it or not.

 

There are some good secluded places around there...they just probably aren't for sale...

Ok, I won't get off topic again...

Tim

 

Haha these past 2 pages have been off topic to wut the original thread was started about lmao.

 

No by the way I do not shop at Wal-Mart or Target....Nice try


And this thread is about Toyota slipping not about appliances and electronics

 

100% agreement there, I bleed blue and would never drive or buy anything else.

 

Fit and finish, initial quality, safety, etc.

Is that enough or do you want to try and pick that apart to!

 

What only people who drove a Ford with Firestone's on it died!?! Give me a break!

Look at the stats from mid-sized suv's for the 08's;

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=55

or large 08 suv's;

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=50

In fact you can search any make any year. Go right ahead, be my guest tough guy!

and while you're at it go right ahead and compare rollover stats and pick the year across the makes at;

http://www.safercar.gov/Index2.cfm

Shivy was no better, and in many cases they weren't even close to Ford yet who gets the bad pr pasted all over the headlines!?!

 

Like I stated earlier, I don't doubt they have had their fair share of problems, some of their own doing, but I fail to see that they are the WORST.

fyi The first Ford I owned was a 64 Fairlane 500, second Ford was a 66 Ford F250 Camper Special, both in the mid 70's. They were both great vehicles and wish I still had em, and they are still alive and kicking btw. I know who owns both of em.

I'm well aware of Ford problems back in those days, but I'm not blind to the fact the other manufacturer's in those same days had plenty of problems of their own and were imo certainly no better than the Ford's of the same time.