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If you have a automatic trans I probably wouldn't use either of them. With most rear sump aftermarket pans you have no way to get to the torque converter studs.These pans butt right up against the bell housing making it impossible to get to the studs. Summit or Jeggs sell a stock replacement pan kit that has everything, dipstick & tube, main stud, pick up tube & pan, for a lot cheeper then either of those pans.
I think you would have to trim out the hole some to get a socket on the nuts ? But at any rate it would be a real pain to get it lined up working through the starter hole. I had a Milodon 4x4 pan and ended up getting rid of it for that reason + I didn't see the need for spending the extra money to run 9 qts of oil.
I didn't think one could even SEE the nuts for the TC through the starter hole, let alone take them off or put them on... For that matter, I don't remember seeing the TC at all through the starter hole?? I guess it's been too long for me!
you can get at the TC nuts thru the starter hole, but it is not a fun job as it is not a straight shot to the nut with a socket and extension. i had to do it twice already.
what i ended up doing is cutting the plate that goes between the engine and tranny to make an access door to get to the TC nuts. then i just drilled and tapped the bellhousing to hold the access door in place.
Thanks everybody with all the info i will go with the stock pan again. Now i just need to order the clutch and new flywheel to get my truck back up and running with new motor.
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