I am wondering if the parts seen in the pics are original OEM for my 1960 F100 Custom Cab.

Passenger lap belt


Driver's side - it doesn't click to lock; it is a friction type. Fomoco stamped on both ends of the belt. Part # EN 7061236 ? (Hard to read)


Mirrors


Gas cap


All these parts came with the truck and when it's restored I want it stock as can be. I'd like to know if I already have the real deal parts.

~Will

PS. Were lap belts an option in 1960 or were they part of the Custom Cab package?

 

Welcome to FTE

None of these parts are genuine Ford.

Lap seat belts were optional, but they were the "aircraft" type...webbing to buckle.

The mirrors look like something from J.C. Whitney or Western Auto.

The bracket that fits down inside the door may be genuine, but the arm and mirror are not, and look "jury rigged."

Ford offered two different non locking gas caps. One painted, one chrome...the caps are knurled on the sides, and are smooth convex, without that dimple.

Inside that dimple there was once a decal that said: STANT.

The factory gas caps were the same 1948 thru 1972.

The chrome mirrors with the round head that fit into the door slots have been reproduced and are available from FTE sponsors.

The gas caps are prolly also reproduced.

If you don't want the chrome mirror with the round head (these look nice, but have limited visibility), I might be able to find a pair of NOS genuine Ford mirrors similar to the type you now have.

 

Thanks for the info, Bill. However, regarding none of the aforementioned parts being genuine Ford, both sides of the driver's lap belt are clearly marked FoMoCo. I just had another look and the buckle is BN7061208-A

Thanks again.

~Will

 

Uh...I'm kinda sorta right, because these belts were not installed in Fords.

BN = These belts were originally installed in 1952/54 Lincolns.

btw: They may be clearly marked to some...but not to others.

Not everyone here on FTE was born in the 1980's, 1970's, 1960's or even the 1950's with correspondingly (younger) eyes.

Give us old pharts a break!

 

Bill - you did great work and I am grateful, and the "clearly marked" was for you to know I wasn't seeing things - I didn't think an old pro like yourself would miss that logo. So someone added whatever belt they could find.. Makes sense given the mismatched set 'twix passenger and driver.

I'm very glad to hear those aren't OEM mirrors because they are such a pain to deal with!

Many deep bows sir

Will

 

No you were not seeing things, My 56 T-800 has the same thing and it positively was
was delivered with these belts cause I got the build sheet***

 

It was positively delivered with seats belts, but there is no seat belt part number on the build sheet and since you most likely didn't buy it new, there is no way for you to know whether those seat belts are the same type it came with originally.

The optional plain jane lap seat belts Ford used in all the trucks from 1956 thru 1966 were the metal to webbing type, commonly known back then as the "aircraft" type.

Beginning in 1963, the same deluxe belts offered as an option for the cars were also available in trucks. These had a color coded buckle and were metal to metal i.e. metal buckle to metal tongue.

Lap seat belts became standard equipment beginning in the 1967 model year for light trucks. Cars got standard lap belts beginning 1/1/1966.

 

Bill - When you say aircraft type belts with metal to webbing, are you referring to a belt assembly that has one strap (A) with no locking hardware, other strap (B) has a buckle with a friction roller, and is worn by slipping strap A through the buckle then cinching down on strap B?
I ask this because I flew for the USAF, so "aircraft type belt" conjures up all kinds of visions. Although no aircraft I flew utilized a belt such as I just described, it no doubt was the type used back when and thus it's name usage in trucks and automobiles of the day. I'll ask my dad - he's a retired airline pilot of that era.

Thanks, Bill

~Will

 

Bill,

can you find the stock mirrors for '53-'56 trucks, not the round chrome ones, the 6"x6" black ones. I have 2 on my truck but one is kind of rough. My mirror arms are OK but I might want one of them if you can find one.

Also, do you have documentation that the round chrome mirrors first came out in 1957 and were not originally made for the '53-'56 trucks. In all the brochures, catalogs, and option and accessory sheets I have seen, not one showed a truck with the round ones or listed the round ones as an option.

 

That's exactly what he means. The Billet & Friction Buckle are what is known as A/C type seatbelts because that's where they were adopted from, Passenger Airline seatbelts.

 

Interesting stuff.

Regarding my present mirrors, I thought they were alternate OEM due to their age and, most of all, their "star" pattern in their center - it resembles the starburst found on my instrument panel. I fell for that, bigger than Dallas!

~Will

 

Exactly. What some aircraft used (and may still use on some private planes), hence the name "aircraft type."

The problem with all the early seat belts is, they did not come with retractors, it was an option over and above the optional seat belts.

Without a retractor, the outer belts hung loose, were constantly falling down between the sill plate and the open door.

Over time, the belts frayed, then tore apart due to the door constantly being closed against that dangling belt.

The retractors have been reproduced...to see what they look like, go here:

dearbornclassics.com / catalog-page 70, column left, bottom of page,

# OBR64 = seat belt retractor. Looks mickey mouse, but this is what was originally used.

 

There have been several part numbers used for the round chrome mirrors over the years.

The original mirrors are not what's being sold today, as the mirror head on the early type was replaceable. Today, the mirror is all one assembly.

I believe the change first occured in 1961, when the original part number was replaced by C1TZ-17696-E.

What was the original part number, and when were the mirrors first offered?

The mirrors are not listed in my 1953 Ford & Mercury Truck Parts Catalog, but are listed in the 1957 and later catalogs.

Due to Ford's penchant for updating part numbers ( ), the original part number isn't listed, only the C1TZ-E mirror number is.

I believe that the original part number was B5C-17696-A (1955), which was later changed to B5CZ-17696-A.

The mirror is the same, the Z was added to the part number prefix circa 1959/60.

Dennis Carpenter sells a reproduction of this mirror, but the part number (BAAA17696S) is not the original, it's something DC made up.

The original BAAA-17696-C right side & BAAA-17696-D left side mirrors fit into the slots in the doors, but were painted, and had a squarish shaped head attached to a tubular bracket that attached to the bracket that fit into the doors.

This is a similar mirror to what FTE member SteinDaddy has on his truck...except his mirror is an aftermarket replacement.

> > ABE = Please P/M or email me your request for the original mirrors. < <