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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Anyone seen this?

I'm planning a building for my rural SC property one day. Here's one I'm looking at: www.socketsys.com. Just wondering if anyone's seen one?
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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I have not seen that particular system. I freind built a pole barn and then stacked up baled hay in the wall spaces with chicken wire covering the outside and thensomething like stucko on both sides. He did this all the way around and left openings framed out for doors and windows. It is supposed to have an insulation factor off the charts. He finished the inside into a 2 bedroom house. I dont know how it turned out or what his power bills ended up being , but it was a neat concept.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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Not bad. I'm thinking about doing something like that when I finally am not in a financial black hole.
I have heard about the hay bale houses, there are actually provisions in most building codes for their construction, and they are really warm, not to mention quiet. You do need to make sure that the hay stays dry, though.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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Looks as if it might work. The method of fastening the posts is similar to others I've seen for mounting deck posts on cement pillars. I will say that the building that they were putting up in the video was a lot smaller then the ones that they talk about.

Being more or less a coward, I'd check the following:

1. Local government to see if this stuff meets code.
2. Better Business Bureau and maybe the attorney general to see if the company has anything going on.
3. Ask the company if they have any installations in your area

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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Here is a link to a guy that built one using the socket system:

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/s...ead.php?t=2069
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Looking through the website, they do have engineer sealed drawings with snow load, etc. In rural SC where I'm building, they don't much care what you build for a barn, as long as you're not gonna live in it. I'm planning 24X48 feet, with frames every 8', which is heavier than it needs to be. I'm mostly worried about racking, so I guess I'll sheath it in T1-11 plywood to help brace it. I'm also thinking about a 24" concrete knee wall to get the structure further from the termites. With 8' wall, plus 2 ft of concrete, I'll get 10' eaves, and 17' in the middle where I might someday have a lift. I'll probably throw in a couple tie beams where I don't need the head room. With all the timber on my land, I could cut my own beams on a sawmill- I'm thinking about a sawmill anyway for other things like flooring for the house. The socket system is a little more expensive than conventional stick frame, but looks a lot easier to erect with a small crew.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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If you cut and mill your own wood, make sure to let it dry for at least six months before you build with it.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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hay burns (more like smolders forever, lol), so careful of your heating methods. Up here in northern MN, some folks make hay bale sheds for storing blocks of ice and other frozen goods. It'll stay cold all summer.
 

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With hay bale construction, how do you keep critters, insects, mold and bacteria from growing in the hay without poisoning your environment? Is straw better?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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The straw or hay bales are completely encased, typically in stucco or plaster. Critters, bugs, fire, etc don't have access to the organic material.

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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Good day folks, Up here in Saskatchewan Canada, there was a government sponsored project where they built a eco-freindly building out of "Flax" bales. (the retangular ones) The flax is a oilseed so the straw does not break dowm easily. Rodents & bugs don't like it either. I've yet to see it up close, but I think they use it as a tourist info center or something like that. It is near a golf course & regional park. It is also encased in stucco insde & out. Cheers Rick
 
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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I wonder what the cost would be in relation to a steel or stick built?
 
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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I'm not sure of the costs or for that matter the building practices either. But it would seem logical to me the structure would be built around a pole type building with large open areas between the poles to stack the straw bales. Then frame over the bales & sheet or stucco. The same town is trying to develop a business around hemp. NO, not the wacky tabacky kind. They want to make clothing or fabrics & buiding materials & some kind of holistic herbal blends for the eco-freindlys out there. Sounds good to me. Cheers Rick
 
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