DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) — Ford Motor Co. surprised Wall Street Thursday with second-quarter earnings of $750 million, its first profitable quarter in two years.

 

Did Ford sell Jag without mentioning it in the press? ( jk )

 

longgggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg way to go.............hopefully they will rebound

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19970567/

confirming that jag and land rover are for sale.

my pops traded in his 3.0 x-type yesterday, wasnt to thrilled with the service at the jag dealership, he leases vehicles. saw that the dealers werent as thrilled to find out he instead of buying one. he saw there demenor change a little. monday morning his new 07 audi a4 converty 2.0 turbo is coming on monday. cant wait to take that one across the sunshine skyway bridge filming the speedo. hahaha going to be fun, got a nice video of the jag doing 127 or so.

 

I wonder if FORD will have to do the same with Land Rover & Jag that Daimler is having to do with Chrysler basically pay someone to buy it. There was an article on MSN last night about it.

 

I think Ford will be just fine in the long run. They just need more time.

 

I heard in news 2 days ago, ford will have to sell Jag, land rover and volvo. They said ford needs capital to bring up the ford brand.

 

Ford doesn't want to sell Volvo, they want to sell Land Rover and especially Jaguar. The only reason Volvo is for sale, is because Ford has packaged Volvo with the other two...hoping someone, anyone will buy all three. Jaguar & Land Rover have been for sale for over two years. Since there have been no takers, Ford added Volvo, as it has always been profitable. After spending 4 BILLION DOLLARS to buy Jaguar, and spending an additional 2 BILLION DOLLARS + fixing the problems, Ford hasn't made a dime on Jaguar since day one. Average monthly sales: Less than 2,000 units.

 

imagine if they paid what daimler paid for chrysler, talk about losses

 

Don't forget, all the profits from Chrysler/Dodge vehicle and parts sales went to Germany for as long as the two companies were merged. Parts sales is where auto makers make the real money.

So, how much money did Daimler really lose?

 

Ford hasn't made a dime on Jaguar since day one. Average monthly sales: Less than 2,000 units.[/QUOTE]

Probally a dumb question but is that 2k figure just US sales or world wide Jaguar sales.

 

Just US sales.
Which in the Jaguar scheme of things isn't a huge amount.

Currently an 18month wait if you want a new XK coupe here. 24months for a convertible.

 

Maybe it's a result of cost cutting, and NOT making the huge $$$ design changes that the media blasts them for. F150 is waxing the Tundra.

Hope this continues. I've always liked Ford -- why, I don't know. Probably because I loved the shoebox Fords when I was little.

As for the comparison between Jag etc, and DCX -- Daimlier (sp?) did nothing but suck money out of Chrysler. Between taking profits, and dictating that everything should support higher Mercedes sales, they're lucky that anything's left.

On the other hand, I think that FoMoCo was hoping that Jag would give them some prestige cars -- never really happened as far as I could tell. So they probably have to dump them -- and maybe they need Volvo to sweeten the pot.

Just my opinions

ford2go

 

What I think sucks in a lot of ways...
With Jaguar, the product is there, and it is good quality.

If they sell Volvo or Land Rover, I would almost be willing to hang my blue oval cap up.
They have the 2 most critical companies here to the companies brand image and sales success - and they are considering selling them.
Volvo has the safe image covered, and is selling vehicles hand over fist, and has a brilliant product line up.
Land Rover has the best premium 4x4 reputation, and great line up (although an updated Defender I think is critical in emerging markets). It has had record sales in the last few years.

Jaguar, I could understand them selling - even if there is still hope, I would understand it as a business decision. But they have really good cars, they just don't happen to sell.
I think they probably need to reinvent themselves like they did in the late fifties, a new XKSS car to take on the likes of a F430/GT3 would certainly be an image builder.
Lexus has its hybrids, BMW its "driving machine", Mercedes has half a dozen models with 600hp and more torque than DOHC's beloved duramax, and Audi has its "chiseled from granite" styling and build and materials quality that is unparalleled.
Jaguar has what? Its heritage.
And its heritage styling isn't winning buyers.

 

Ford seems to be leading the Cross-over segment