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Aug 2, 2007 | 12:23 PM

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Casey

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Originally Posted by marcussen

The 2001 should use Mercon SP which is to the best of my knowledge full synthetic.

The 2001 used MERCON, which has been replaced by MERCON V.

MERCON SP is ONLY for the TorqShift transmission!

Aug 2, 2007 | 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey

MERCON SP is ONLY for the TorqShift transmission!

One thing I've noticed is people asking about their Superduty transmission, and lots of people misunderstanding that the TorqShift was only put in the SD's from 2004-up in diesels, and 2005-up in gassers.

Anything before that is the 4R100.

Aug 2, 2007 | 01:47 PM

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Actually Krew, I think the Torqshift came out in 03. The Torqshift was only available behind the 6.0L Powerstroke from 03-04, it was added in the gas trucks in 05 though like you said.

Aug 2, 2007 | 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Beerstalker

Actually Krew, I think the Torqshift came out in 03. The Torqshift was only available behind the 6.0L Powerstroke from 03-04, it was added in the gas trucks in 05 though like you said.

You're right, thanks for correcting me

Aug 2, 2007 | 02:17 PM

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If in doubt, please pull your transmission dipstick and look at it. It will state on the dipstick if you need Mercon SP.

Aug 3, 2007 | 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 285exp

My 01 does have a pretty big honking trans oil cooler, so I don't think that lack of cooling capacity was my problem.

I understand that it can be a bad idea to start using synthetic engine oil in an older engine that has been using dino oil; is there any downside to a change to synthetic trans fluid in a transmission with over 100k on it? Does Ford have a recommended synthetic for the 4r100? Is it worth it for a transmission with 104k miles on it?
I think that, generally, the factory gauges are pretty much glorified idiot lights. My truck had no factory trans temp gauge anyway, but I prefer gauges that tell you something useful, like the actual temperature, rather than Hot and Cold, with a vast In Between. Thanks again for the help.

All that happens when you switch to a syn is that wear is drastically cut as proven in dozens of engine tests. When I buy anything it gets syn after breakin or in the case of a forty year old tractor at first fluid change and I have never had any problems. I put mobil 1 delvac 5 /40 in a 1975 Ford 2000 tractor with a thousand hours on it three years ago and runs perfect without a drop of oil consumption which surprised me. I used this Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF in an E4OD for a quarter million miles without a fluid change with no problems. Truck still ran like new but it had had mobil one in it since 5k, engine, 30k tranny. The engine oil was changed every 5k and the tranny fluid never after mobil 1 was installed. I am currently thinking about my 07 SD and switching to M1 if possible. I am a firm believer in synthetics and use them in everything. The truck above never had any engine tranny problems and it did lots of towing of boats. I did replace the rear differential and axles, wore em out, they didn't have syn in them. I learned my lesson there and have since put them in all my diffs and transferr cases.

Aug 3, 2007 | 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tex25025

Thats pretty much why I do hate the ones on the tractors that I have, I just can't really see spending that money on the tractors though when they aren't do intensive field work for me, if I was doing hay or big crops then I would.

I just finally bit the bullet and put a nice American made $100 water temp gauge on my old Ford 2000 Diesel built in 1975. I hate using the tractor not being sure of the temp as crap always collects on the radiator when cutting brush and blackberries clogging or blocking air flow. The shiney chrome gauge housing does stick out like a sore thumb but it gives accurate temp readings giving me peice of mind.

Aug 3, 2007 | 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bfloyd4445

I have a jd 650('81) that I had thought about doing a fuel gauge(all it has is the float) and a water temp(only the light like the mowers), but A. putting that on a tractor and B. while I could somewhat rationalize the purchase, I don't think I have the space for it on that little dash on there and I don't think they have a dash kit that would actually have the openings for it on there and I don't trust myself with the drill when I haven't done gauge installations on tractors before.

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Aug 3, 2007 | 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tex25025

chuckle, I know that feeling. I bought a housing for the gauge shaped like a cup which the gauge fits in. The whole thing I then mounted on the top of the tractor facing the driver. It mounted to the sheet metal via two self tapping screws. The wires for the gage were dropped under the sheet metal through a quarter inch hole I drilled which I sealed up with atv to make water proof. Sticks out like a chrome headlight on a model A but smaller and works very well. I choose this surface mount cause I wasn't about to drill a 2 5/8 inch hole to flush mount a gage on my all original old Ford tractor.
If you did the same it would give you peice of mind. You will have to change out the original sender with the one provided with the gauge which it is calibrated to. Simple non invasive installation.