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What TRANNIES and BELL HOUSINGS bolt to a 2.3?

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Old 06-28-2007, 09:28 PM
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What TRANNIES and BELL HOUSINGS bolt to a 2.3?

I know earlier ones have a seperate bell housing on a 2.3, a borg 5 stick can be bolted on.

Supposedly the 3.0 shares the same bolt pattern...

Clue me in - I have to make something happen like RIGHT NOW and Mazda TK's are not worth pooping on.
 
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:56 PM
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The 3.0L does not share the same pattern with the 2.3L. None of the Ranger engines share patterns except the 2.8/2.9/4.0 and 2.3/2.5

So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
 
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Old 06-29-2007, 10:01 AM
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3.0 has uniq bolt pattern. No tranny fits 3.0 exept of tranny for 3.0.

Converting my aero 3.0 auto I used old bellhousinh from a4ld, cut jole for clutch, drilled holes to bolt tranny on it.... I did it in workshop.

But the best way if to find m50d tranny for 3.0 from Aero ore ranger 3.0. May be u will need other prop. shaft
 
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Old 06-29-2007, 11:17 AM
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Just to clean up any misconceptions in my first post, the 2.8L/2.9L/and 4.0L share a bellhousing bolt pattern with each other, and the 2.3L and 2.5L share a completely different bellhousing bolt pattern with each other. None of the sixes bolt to the fours.
 
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:18 PM
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I've got a 2.5 tranny with a bell housing. M50D is the BORG WARNER 5 speed isn't it?

The tranny is missing it's stick. This looks like one... Stick hole is on the end of the tail shaft housing.
 
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Old 06-30-2007, 02:14 AM
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Nope... The M5OD is the Mazda 5 speed with Over Drive, hence the name (some take the "M" for manual, I take it for Mazda).

I think the FM145 is the BW tranny, but don't quote me on that, as frankly it's a shot in the dark, all I have listed is "FM145", doesn't show the manufacturer.
 
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When I converted my Aero 3.0 to manual tranny I've learn 2 things.

1. A4LD (4R44e, 5r55E), M5OD and other trannies lenth may differ! They have different rear logn part lenth and different out.shaft lenth! I was really surprized, but later I learned, that all these trannies fit very different cars and trucks (Mazda E2200, B200, Ford Scorpio, Ford Sierra, Explorer, Aerostar, Bronco Ranger, Mazda 929 and some Japaneese small trucks.....! Trannies look like twins, but after swaping you may see, that proppeller shaft is too long ore too short!

Day on a wrecked yard with measuring band.... and driveshaft was found.

2. after tranny replacement I got vibrations from under the van. Driveshaft was cheked, but It was ballansed to zero. Vubration at speed faster then 80 MPH did not dissapeare. Yes! aero was not designed for so higt speed, but overbore 3.0 lets me to drive so fast. I got dual driveshaft from old russian truck, shorted my old dive shaft, installed bearing under the van and no I engoy. Dual driveshaft of course is more expencive solution, but belive me, it is much better at hight speeds and more difficult to damadge driving off road.
 
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This thing is most likely a four speed - I got it from someone who drove mini-stockers on dirt tracks.
 
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The Toyo Kogyo? That was the standard four speed manual tranny in the '80s for the Ranger.
 
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Old 08-15-2007, 04:34 PM
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That may be where the term "TK" comes from.
I can get a "TK" that is supposedly a 5 speed for five hundred bucks, but now I wonder if the source knows what he's talking about.
 
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I know the early nineties B-series used a Toyo Kogo, and that the 2.6L Mazda has the same block as the 2.5L used in the MPV and later the Ranger. So perhaps they share a bolt pattern.
 
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
Nope... The M5OD is the Mazda 5 speed with Over Drive, hence the name (some take the "M" for manual, I take it for Mazda).

I think the FM145 is the BW tranny, but don't quote me on that, as frankly it's a shot in the dark, all I have listed is "FM145", doesn't show the manufacturer.
The FM145, FM146, etc... are Mitsubishi 5sp transmissions and they can go behind either the v6 or I4 since it has a separate bell housing. So if you find an FM series trans (look for a 2.3L 4x4 as those "should" have the Mitsubishi trans) or you might get lucky and find a 2.3L bell housing separate.

I have always seen the "M" as "manual" since that is not the code on the side of the trans. At least not the earlier Mazda trans. The 83' - 92' Mazda trans should have a tag on the side that says "E87A-FE" or something similar.
 

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The Toyo Kogyo (AKA TK) circa: 1983-1987, has a removable bellhousing, and was produced in both 4 and 5spd models. Toyo Kogyo is the "early" Mazda trans, since Toyo is an industrial equipment devision of (or is owned by, not sure) Mazda. If you have a TK, and find another TK from either a 4cyl or 6cyl, you can use your bellhousing to retro-fit the trans. The Mitsubishi FM145, circa: 1984-1987, and FM146 circa: 1988-1992 (2.9l only) also had a removable bellhousing. Rumor has it the bellhousing from either 145/146 will swap to the other. Finding a Mitsubishi bellhousing to fit a 4cyl might be difficult, since most commonly the Mitsubishi was found behind 6's, and TK bellhousings will not fit the Mitsu trans body. The Mazda is the replacement for both transmissions, most directly the TK. In this case, due to the one-piece case, you'll need a transmission specific to the Lima family, IE; 2.0l/2.3l/2.5l. AFAIK from research, the overall length, clutch components, and output yoke spline and driveshaft length are interchangeable between the TK and Mazda. The shifter is more centered on the Mazda, and the crossmember is slightly different IIRC. By far the simplest is to find another TK5 to swap. The second easiest would be a Mazda. BTW, why the disdain for the TK? Every TK I've had has been rock-solid well past 150,000, I've had better luck with them than with Mazda's or Mitsubishi's. Oh, and FWIW, you can get a BW T5 out of a 4cyl Mustang, none to be had in the RBV lineup.
 
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Well, I have a bell housing from a 2.5. It still has a gearbox on it, but not for long. There are four bolts inside it that I'll blast loose tomorrow.

Then I can mount the first tranny I can scrape up that has a shifter in it. (Long story)
 
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
The 3.0L does not share the same pattern with the 2.3L. None of the Ranger engines share patterns except the 2.8/2.9/4.0 and 2.3/2.5

So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
So not trying to dead thread ted, but so your saying the 2.3l auto trans can fit directly to a 2.9l

Both of my trans are a year apart but A4LD MODELS the trans going in is a 2.3l 89 mustang transmission auto the trans coming down is a 2.9l from a ford ranger 1990.

the only slight differance i see without the transmission dropped yet is the ranger has is starter on the drivers side while mustangs on the passengers



 
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