What TRANNIES and BELL HOUSINGS bolt to a 2.3?
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What TRANNIES and BELL HOUSINGS bolt to a 2.3?
I know earlier ones have a seperate bell housing on a 2.3, a borg 5 stick can be bolted on.
Supposedly the 3.0 shares the same bolt pattern...
Clue me in - I have to make something happen like RIGHT NOW and Mazda TK's are not worth pooping on.
Supposedly the 3.0 shares the same bolt pattern...
Clue me in - I have to make something happen like RIGHT NOW and Mazda TK's are not worth pooping on.
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The 3.0L does not share the same pattern with the 2.3L. None of the Ranger engines share patterns except the 2.8/2.9/4.0 and 2.3/2.5
So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
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3.0 has uniq bolt pattern. No tranny fits 3.0 exept of tranny for 3.0.
Converting my aero 3.0 auto I used old bellhousinh from a4ld, cut jole for clutch, drilled holes to bolt tranny on it.... I did it in workshop.
But the best way if to find m50d tranny for 3.0 from Aero ore ranger 3.0. May be u will need other prop. shaft
Converting my aero 3.0 auto I used old bellhousinh from a4ld, cut jole for clutch, drilled holes to bolt tranny on it.... I did it in workshop.
But the best way if to find m50d tranny for 3.0 from Aero ore ranger 3.0. May be u will need other prop. shaft
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When I converted my Aero 3.0 to manual tranny I've learn 2 things.
1. A4LD (4R44e, 5r55E), M5OD and other trannies lenth may differ! They have different rear logn part lenth and different out.shaft lenth! I was really surprized, but later I learned, that all these trannies fit very different cars and trucks (Mazda E2200, B200, Ford Scorpio, Ford Sierra, Explorer, Aerostar, Bronco Ranger, Mazda 929 and some Japaneese small trucks.....! Trannies look like twins, but after swaping you may see, that proppeller shaft is too long ore too short!
Day on a wrecked yard with measuring band.... and driveshaft was found.
2. after tranny replacement I got vibrations from under the van. Driveshaft was cheked, but It was ballansed to zero. Vubration at speed faster then 80 MPH did not dissapeare. Yes! aero was not designed for so higt speed, but overbore 3.0 lets me to drive so fast. I got dual driveshaft from old russian truck, shorted my old dive shaft, installed bearing under the van and no I engoy. Dual driveshaft of course is more expencive solution, but belive me, it is much better at hight speeds and more difficult to damadge driving off road.
1. A4LD (4R44e, 5r55E), M5OD and other trannies lenth may differ! They have different rear logn part lenth and different out.shaft lenth! I was really surprized, but later I learned, that all these trannies fit very different cars and trucks (Mazda E2200, B200, Ford Scorpio, Ford Sierra, Explorer, Aerostar, Bronco Ranger, Mazda 929 and some Japaneese small trucks.....! Trannies look like twins, but after swaping you may see, that proppeller shaft is too long ore too short!
Day on a wrecked yard with measuring band.... and driveshaft was found.
2. after tranny replacement I got vibrations from under the van. Driveshaft was cheked, but It was ballansed to zero. Vubration at speed faster then 80 MPH did not dissapeare. Yes! aero was not designed for so higt speed, but overbore 3.0 lets me to drive so fast. I got dual driveshaft from old russian truck, shorted my old dive shaft, installed bearing under the van and no I engoy. Dual driveshaft of course is more expencive solution, but belive me, it is much better at hight speeds and more difficult to damadge driving off road.
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Originally Posted by RangerPilot
Nope... The M5OD is the Mazda 5 speed with Over Drive, hence the name (some take the "M" for manual, I take it for Mazda).
I think the FM145 is the BW tranny, but don't quote me on that, as frankly it's a shot in the dark, all I have listed is "FM145", doesn't show the manufacturer.
I think the FM145 is the BW tranny, but don't quote me on that, as frankly it's a shot in the dark, all I have listed is "FM145", doesn't show the manufacturer.
I have always seen the "M" as "manual" since that is not the code on the side of the trans. At least not the earlier Mazda trans. The 83' - 92' Mazda trans should have a tag on the side that says "E87A-FE" or something similar.
Last edited by G2IC_Wraith; 08-16-2007 at 09:24 AM.
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The Toyo Kogyo (AKA TK) circa: 1983-1987, has a removable bellhousing, and was produced in both 4 and 5spd models. Toyo Kogyo is the "early" Mazda trans, since Toyo is an industrial equipment devision of (or is owned by, not sure) Mazda. If you have a TK, and find another TK from either a 4cyl or 6cyl, you can use your bellhousing to retro-fit the trans. The Mitsubishi FM145, circa: 1984-1987, and FM146 circa: 1988-1992 (2.9l only) also had a removable bellhousing. Rumor has it the bellhousing from either 145/146 will swap to the other. Finding a Mitsubishi bellhousing to fit a 4cyl might be difficult, since most commonly the Mitsubishi was found behind 6's, and TK bellhousings will not fit the Mitsu trans body. The Mazda is the replacement for both transmissions, most directly the TK. In this case, due to the one-piece case, you'll need a transmission specific to the Lima family, IE; 2.0l/2.3l/2.5l. AFAIK from research, the overall length, clutch components, and output yoke spline and driveshaft length are interchangeable between the TK and Mazda. The shifter is more centered on the Mazda, and the crossmember is slightly different IIRC. By far the simplest is to find another TK5 to swap. The second easiest would be a Mazda. BTW, why the disdain for the TK? Every TK I've had has been rock-solid well past 150,000, I've had better luck with them than with Mazda's or Mitsubishi's. Oh, and FWIW, you can get a BW T5 out of a 4cyl Mustang, none to be had in the RBV lineup.
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The 3.0L does not share the same pattern with the 2.3L. None of the Ranger engines share patterns except the 2.8/2.9/4.0 and 2.3/2.5
So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
So a 2.3L could have the old Toyo tranny, the Mitsu, the M5OD, the C4 I believe, the 4R44E, 4R55E, and 5R55E. I probably missed a couple, sorry Wolf. Don't have any of my good stuff nearby.
Both of my trans are a year apart but A4LD MODELS the trans going in is a 2.3l 89 mustang transmission auto the trans coming down is a 2.9l from a ford ranger 1990.
the only slight differance i see without the transmission dropped yet is the ranger has is starter on the drivers side while mustangs on the passengers
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