May 2007 Truck Sales
#31
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
First OHV V8 = 1949 Cadillac 331 ci
First Chevrolet OHV V8 = 1955 265 ci
While we're at it...First Chrysler Hemi = 1951 331 ci
First Chevrolet OHV V8 = 1955 265 ci
While we're at it...First Chrysler Hemi = 1951 331 ci
#32
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Who was the first to utilize an OHC design?
EDIT: Fred and Augie Duesenberg developed America's first OHC engine. It was a 4 cylinder, and used in the Roamer Special Sport around 1914. All Duesy's were OHC's. The term: "It's a Duesy" came from the Duesenberg. First Duesenberg car: 1921 Model A.
The Hemi is also European in origin.
The current Chrysler/Dodges are "semi" hemis.
And while we're at it: First monocoque (uni) body: 1925 Lancia D' Lambda
Last edited by NumberDummy; 06-07-2007 at 08:56 PM.
#33
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
You do realize that the current "Hemi" in the Dodges isn't really a Hemi in it's original sense, right? It is pretty much a marketing ploy. The heads and pistons do not even resemble the original Hemi design. In fact, (and I could be wrong here) I believe Dodge wasn't even the inventor of the Hemi design.
#34
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
First produced in Europe in the 1910's. I'm not really sure what American car first offered an OHC engine. Ford offered a SOHC 427 engine in 1969, but for racing only. It was immediatly banned by NASCAR.
EDIT: Fred and Augie Duesenberg developed America's first OHC engine. It was a 4 cylinder, and used in the Roamer Special Sport around 1914. All Duesy's were OHC's. The term: "It's a Duesy" came from the Duesenberg. First Duesenberg car: 1921 Model A.
The Hemi is also European in origin.
The current Chrysler/Dodges are "semi" hemis.
And while we're at it: First monocoque (uni) body: 1925 Lancia D' Lambda
EDIT: Fred and Augie Duesenberg developed America's first OHC engine. It was a 4 cylinder, and used in the Roamer Special Sport around 1914. All Duesy's were OHC's. The term: "It's a Duesy" came from the Duesenberg. First Duesenberg car: 1921 Model A.
The Hemi is also European in origin.
The current Chrysler/Dodges are "semi" hemis.
And while we're at it: First monocoque (uni) body: 1925 Lancia D' Lambda
#36
Originally Posted by Vmax2007
I believe Dodge wasn't even the inventor of the Hemi design.
I can't recall who invented it, I do know a company in Michigan first built a "Hemi headed" engine in 1903 (for industrial reasons) can't recall the name of the company, but I do know that GM bought them out in 1910 (I think?), but its first automotive use was on the 1912 Peugeot Grand Prix car. (Delage also used it later in the same year).
In fact pretty much every major auto manufacturer has (or had departments) which have used it.
Porsche, Jaguar, Bristol, Toyota, Ford...
Doesn't really seem that special any more does it???
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
Who was the first to utilize an OHC design?
Peugeot implemented it on thier "Hemi" Grand Prix cars a year later...
#37
Originally Posted by V10_Cougar
DOHC,
everybody copies FORD.
everybody copies FORD.
Even though I know you're kinda messin' around, we won't get into who originated the compact pickup.
And with all this hoopla over this new found technology concerning boxed frame rails, please note '66-'77 Broncos had boxed frames; and ALL Toy trucks had them untill the 1st generation Tundra......I know, I know, they weren't HYDROFORMED boxed frame rails and that's why they've all failed
[BTW, I bought the 1st year Ranger, 1983...had to wait a bit for the 2.8L German V6 and 5 speed Mitsubishi transmission, it still ranks as one of the toughest trucks I've ever owned(c-channel frame and all)....it took nearly as much abuse as my kid's '02 Ranger...you know, the one with the Mazda transmission!!! ]
Last edited by DOHCmarauder; 06-08-2007 at 02:28 AM.
#38
Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Even though I know you're kinda messin' around, we won't get into who originated the compact pickup.
Did you say Datsun?
BINGO!
Before Toyota, Datsun (Nissan) was once the largest selling Japanese import in the US, mostly because of their compact pickup, which created a sensation when first imported in 1959.
#39
Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
How about mechanically the same???
Dude, except for trim.....MAYBE a choice of a few different options/option packages, they are the same truck.
And please explain how a Taco is a carbon copy of a Ranger???
Dude, except for trim.....MAYBE a choice of a few different options/option packages, they are the same truck.
And please explain how a Taco is a carbon copy of a Ranger???
If you doubt it and think I need to explain how a taco is a copy of a Ranger, what's the use!?! Granted they aren't as identical as they were in the 90's, but toy definitely copied off the Ranger. Again, feel free to have the last word, but you won't change what I see!
#40
Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Before Toyota, Datsun (Nissan) was once the largest selling Japanese import in the US, mostly because of their compact pickup, which created a sensation when first imported in 1959.
#41
Originally Posted by Fordsflylow
It's extremely simple really! If they were mechanically the same the recalls should be identical as well, and they aren't. End of discussion for me! Feel free to get the last word.
If you doubt it and think I need to explain how a taco is a copy of a Ranger, what's the use!?! Granted they aren't as identical as they were in the 90's, but toy definitely copied off the Ranger. Again, feel free to have the last word, but you won't change what I see!
If you doubt it and think I need to explain how a taco is a copy of a Ranger, what's the use!?! Granted they aren't as identical as they were in the 90's, but toy definitely copied off the Ranger. Again, feel free to have the last word, but you won't change what I see!
#42
Originally Posted by BigF350
Well, kinda technically Ford of Australia was. In 1934, they created the first coupe utility:
Last edited by NumberDummy; 06-08-2007 at 07:00 AM.
#43
Kinda technically?
Nothing is really new when it comes to automobiles. Push button transmissions, big news in the 1950's, but Premiere had one in 1917. Tilt wheel? Around since the 1910's. Hydraulic brakes? Stutz was the first..except instead of mineral spirits, (brake fluid), they used H2O! Didn't work too well when the brakes got hot. Power steering? Pierce-Arrow in 1927...people were scared of it...no road feel. Auto transmissions? Reo self shifter of 1931, 9 yrs before Hydramatic. Since Model T's had planetary transmissions, wouldn't the T get the credit for the first auto? Power brakes? Yesterdays news, not 1951, go back 20 years. IRS = De Dion Bouton turn of the (last) century. Paddles on the steering wheels? Pre-select gearbox, Cord 810, 1936. There's more...but this'll do for now.
Last edited by NumberDummy; 06-08-2007 at 07:39 AM.
#44
#45
Originally Posted by SMIGGS
This must where the El Camino or I believe the Torino orginated from.
Smiggy, the Ranchero was first...in 1957. No El Caminos till 1959.
The Torino was launched in 1968. It replaced the Fairlane model name on the upscale models. The lower priced model still carried the Fairlane name. Within 3 years, the Fairlane name was gone.
What does the name Fairlane refer to?
Fairlane was the name Henry Ford gave to his estate in Dearborn.
Last edited by NumberDummy; 06-08-2007 at 09:14 AM.