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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:20 PM
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Keep looking!

In that copper info index list I linked to you can find "Table 4" for the soldered fittings. It is also listed in the FAQ for this forum in my sig:
http://64.90.169.191/applications/pl...cth_table4.htm

Some brass fittings are listed at the same site. One of the listings says:
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Flared Copper Fittings

COLD WATER SERVICE

Flared fittings for use with flared copper tube for cold water applications with a maximum water pressure of 175 psig are manufactured to the requirements of ANSI/ASME B16.26 – Cast Copper Alloy Fittings for Flared Copper Tubes.

These fittings shall be produced to meet the general requirements of ASTM B 62, Alloy C83600 or the chemical and tensile requirements of ASTM B 584, alloys C83800 or C84400. Essentially, the elemental make-up of these cast brass fittings is approximately but not exactly equal to 85% Copper (Cu), 5% Tin (Sn), 5% Lead (Pb) and 5% Zinc (Zn). (Although other elements may be part of the Alloy structure, more detailed analysis of the Alloys can be obtained from Copper Development Association Inc from their Plumbing Section).

These flared fittings are limited in size from 3/8” nominal to 2” nominal as designated by ASTM B88 for Seamless Copper Water Tube.

Marking of these fittings is limited to the manufacturer’s name or trademark and that identification may be omitted form fittings less than ½” nominal size.

(These flared fittings are normally limited to use in underground water service lines and in some rare cases above ground water distribution piping and should not be mistaken for 45° flared fittings manufactured for higher pressure applications.)
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http://64.90.169.191/applications/pl...fttgs_stds.htm

This same page lists the pressure ratings for soldered fittings of several types themselves while the former listing rates them with several joining methods.

There is LOTS of information at that site, look around and you may find what you are looking for.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 08:27 PM
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Don't suppose there's a CliffsNotes version for this information?
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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No such luck, Engineering requires LOTS of reading and searching. Over a period of time you build up a huge library of tables files, links(nowadays) and info in any particular field. Long gone are the days when you could memorize all the facts and figures you need or jot them down on a crib sheet for the test. Those of us that have prodigious memories become MD's but even they are overloaded completely with information vying for memory cells.
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 12:31 AM
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Most all ASME pressure ratings are given with a Max temp of 650°. In a house fire these temps are well exceeded and all the ratings go out the window. The strength of most common materials is considerably lessened in such a case.I guess to avoid some sort of a catastrophic release of air pressure one sould not leave the system pressurized.

Eric, I was interested in your experience with SS tubing. I too have a lot of experience along these lines. I work all the time with SS control lines on industrial air systems and have tubed up several Natural gas refueling stations @ 3500 PSIG here in California
 
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Old May 27, 2007 | 01:36 AM
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All of my SS tubing work was for high vacuum, so I guess atmospheric pressure was the limit there! When working with just a few molecules zinging around any leak even outgassing or porosity was "interesting". Having plenty of liquid nitrogen to experiment with was a plus tho.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 12:40 AM
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Based on what I've read here, I guess using a standard air hose between the compressor and the ceiling mounted hose reel is a real safety hazard. I keep the valve at the tank shut generally, but not always. I would guess that the rubber hose would burn a whole lot sooner than copper...
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 06:43 AM
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It is common practice to run a short flexible rubber hose from the compressor to your metal air lines to isolate the vibration of your compressor from your air distribution system.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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I would not use less than 5/8"; we had a sandblaster that was always a PITA to get to work just right, then we installed a 5/8" line for it and no more problems. A 1/2" impact driver also needs big air for maximum power.
 
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Originally Posted by cujo8
Most compressor companies recommend running "Black" pipe and tell you not to use copper, galvanized, or PVC pipe. They recommend this not only for safety, but the thick black pipe makes a good heat sink and helps eliminate water from your compressed air supply.
The problem I ran into was the "black" pipe or at least a lot of the fittings at Blowes and Home DePoop were only rated at 150 psi and I needed 175 psi. They probably would have been okay but their stuff was also made in China. My family has had problems with Chinese shrapnel so I ended up using brass to build my manifolds.
 
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