My inlaws have a 1995 motorhome on a ford chasis and just traded it in on a 1998 V10 motorhome that is 31'. Now he is comparing it to his 460 and has not found an upside to having the V10. I keep telling him that it is the life of the engine and the torque but he disagrees. He says he had all the torque he needed in his 460 and that 100K on a motorhome is about the life of them because they judt don't get driven that much. He has 50K on his 460 and it is a '95 and the '98 he just bought only has 10K. so he does'nt see the value.
No fuel gain
No HP gain
No ROI in general for him.

Anything I should point out to him?
I Love my V10

 

why did they trade? Sounds like they were happy with what they had?

 

Doesn't sounds like they've driven it yet. What's the comparison being based on?

 

Maybe do a little research before you buy something?

 

No fuel gain - how does he know yet, how many miles has he driven?
No HP gain - really, that surprises me
No ROI in general for him - he should have done his homework, and if the above is correct he shouldn't have traded

 

Well that V10 is a 98 in a van chassis. So it probably is barely comparable to the 460. When I first drove a 99 V10 I was not impressed at all, comparing to my 1994 460. But the 2000 up are totally different in my opinion.

 

Madmedic20,
Thank you for understanding. I have a 99 V10 and love it, However i am not impressed with it compared to the 460. Now to answer everyones questions in one format:
He traded to get a BIGGER motorhome. The only reason he traded was because this unit was bigger by nearly 10' has a generator and an A/C unit that their unit did not have. He also knows that my V10 has had no issues and is confident in the ford chasis and engines.

 

Ahh...well...10' and more accessories means more weight ( as you already know) so there could be part of it.

 

The 98 and 99 have slightly less HP and torque, compared to the 2000 and newer, (265HP to 305 HP) and torque is not even that much.
Just have him check the torque band of the V-10 compared to the 460, the V-10 is much wider, and produces about 90% of its max torque at only 1200 rpms. There also more fuel efficient, he may not have realized that yet, but he will. And motor homes do last longer that 100K, my 2001 27' Class C is pushing 90K now, and I haven't even pulled the plugs yet, and it still runs as strong as ever, and still uses about 1 Qt per 5K miles of Mobil 1 5W-30. I did replace the accessory drive belt. Other wise just routine service. I know one guy with 220K on his 99 V-10, E-350 and still going strong.
And my 98 E-350 work van has 185K with no problems, and its overloaded.

 

Apples and oranges vs unreasonable expectations perhaps??

460 CI dragging XXXX?? weight vs 415 CI dragging XXXXXXX?? more weight

very curious synopses of :

No fuel gain
No HP gain
No ROI in general for him.

If your in-laws are unimpressed...then I assume they are too mechanically unsophisticated to ever understand the dynamics of the differences or a smaller motor hauling a MUCH larger load at supposedly the same effeciency....you are never going to get them to realize this exceptionally significant fact.

 

I HAVE PRETTY MUCH QUIT TRYING TO CONVINCE HIM OF THE POTENTIAL FUEL SAVINGS AND SUCH. I AM PUTTING NEW PLUGS IN MY RIG RIGHT NOW AND AT 125k I THINK THEY ARE THE ORIGINAL PLUGS. WHEN I AM DONE I WILL GET A GOOD AND ACCURATE MILEAGE AND IT SHOULD BE BETTER THAN IT IS NOW. 7.5 TOWING TO 10 UNLOADED MIX DRIVING.