I ordered a F-350 on April 26 and Ford gave me a Vin # the same day.
Here lies the problem. When you build the truck on the Ford web site,
you add the 6.4 and it automaticly gives you payload package 1C.
This has a GVWR 0f 11400. The dealer put in the option of a GVWR of 10000
Why would you want to lower the GVWR on a F-350. Dealer can't give me the answer and his contact at Ford was no help. I want him to remove the GVWR
of 10000 is this the right option? Will this give me 11400? Im in CA if that makes a difference. Thanks for help in advance.

 

RATZ13,

Plain and simple, your dealer screwed up and placed the order with the 10K GVWR package. The reason for the GVWR package is that in some states, license plates and insurance are higher and sometimes a special class of drivers license is required. So the 10K GVWR package is offered for these people.

Now for more bad news, if FMC has picked up the order sheet and issued a build sheet and VIN# then usually it is to late to make changes, and so the only solution is to have your dealer order a new vehicle for you. You don't have to take delivery of the improperly ordered vehicle. You have no contract with the dealer until your truck you want arrives and you sign the paper work.

Good luck

 

The 10000 GVWR package is actually only a sticker. The sticker on your driver's door frame will say that the GVWR on the truck is 10000 instead of being 11 something. That is the only difference. They don't take things off of the truck or put lighter duty things on the truck. It is only a sticker that helps the people in the states that have higher license fees for trucks with over 10000 gvwr. So, you really are not loosing payload that the truck can handle. It will still handle the 11 something GVWR.

The only bad things is if you are ever carrying more than 10000 GVWR on the truck and would for some strange reason have to pull into a hwy weigh station, you could get a ticket for being over GVWR. But, I highly doubt that you would actually have to ever pull into a weigh station.

If you don't need the 10000 GVWR sticker, then I would see if they can remove it from your order. If they can't remove it, then I would not worry to much about it.

My 2 cents worth,
Mark

 

Thanks for the info.
Does anyone know if California is one of those states where the insurance is higher or you need a special class drivers license?

 

I'm not sure but believe it is a D.O.T. regulation and used by the insurance companies Nationwide that over 10,000# you have to get commercial insurance that is about twice as much as regular auto insurance. Also commericial plates that are more.The same thing happened to my when I went from my 350 to my 450 the certificate of origin had 14,000# on it. best to talk to someone in your insurance company that really nows their regulations.

 

Not exactly. When you order the 10K GVWR package on the F350 SD, you get the lowest rated springs front and rear. In this case on a 6.4L PSD 4x4 the Front GAWR is going to be 4800lbs (4800-6000lbs range of available springs & Front GAWR for a 4x4 PSD; 2WD & Gas engines have lower spring rates than this) and the Rear GAWR is going to be 6390lbs (with standard GVWR Rear GAWR = 7,000).
So besides the lower "stickered GVWR of 10K, the truck will have lower Front & Rear GAWR do to lighter springs in both locations.

The range of Front GAWR is 3650-6000 and Rear is 6390-7000 depending on trim/cab/engine/2or4WD/accessory & GVWR packages selected.

This comes from the FMC "Source Book" (page 57 & 58)

Hope this helps

 

In CA pickup trucks with a GVWR of 11,500lbs or less are exempt from commercial plate registration.

"471. A "pickup truck" is a motor truck with a manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating of less than 11,500 pounds, an unladen weight of less than 8,001 pounds, and which is equipped with an open box-type bed not exceeding 9 feet in length. "Pickup truck" does not include a motor vehicle otherwise meeting the above definition, that is equipped with a bed-mounted storage compartment unit commonly called a "utility body."

Added Ch. 13, Stats. 1991. Effective February 13, 1991.
Amended Ch. 928, Stats. 1991. Effective October 14, 1991.
Amended Sec. 8, Ch. 652, Stats. 1997. Effective January 1, 1998."
www.dmv.ca.gov/commercial/cvra.htm

CA does have different "non-commercial" license classes depending on vehicle GVWR & GCWR plus the type of trailers you want to tow.
www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/dl648/dl648pt2.htm

Here is the main link to the CA DMV
www.dmv.ca.gov/

Hope this helps

 

I'm in California and I have an F350 dually with a GVW of 13,000 (Front GAWR = 6,000, Rear GAWR = 9,000). No special drivers license, but I do have a commercial designated registration because of the GVW, adds ~$150-ish to the annual fee.

As for insurance, it only cost me ~$100 more per year when I swapped out a 2001 F150 for a 2008 F350. So, no, there was no impact of that on my insurance, just having a vehicle that was worth a whole lot more than the one it replaced.

 

I live in Cailfornia.
I will be getting a F450 and do not require a special licence to drive it. But if the trailer that you are pulling weighs 15100 or more then you will need at least a non-commercial class A licence. (As I found out). The way you can get around having to pay for commercail plates for your truck is to put a shell and carpet kit in your truck. But then you are limited to a bumper pull trailer only.

 

mattebury no fair. My insurance went up from 527 year to about 1300 because of the commercial policy my insurance company made me get commercial insurance. I guess that is why they call us taxachusetts. If I lived in Boston it would be over $3000.

 

blackhat620
I ordered the stabilizer pkg so i have the heavy duty front springs. So does that mean there is no difference?
Thanks to you and everyone who has replied.

 

I have a build date of May 21st
Its like having a baby!

F-350 FX4 SRW Black w/ Dark shadow grey 2 tone
LOADED

 

The stabilizer package adds a rear stabilizer and increases the Front springs by one code higher than computer normally selected for your truck. It is a 400lb increase on 4WD & a 150Lb increase on 2WD.
So if you would normally have a 4800lb spring on the front it is now a 5200lb spring. There rear springs are not changed.

Hope this helps

 

You can drive a single vehicle up to 26,000# GVWR with a standard class C license.

You can only tow a bumper pull trailer with a rating plate up to 9999# with a standard class C license.

You can tow a fifth wheel travel trailer up to 15,000# with a standard class C license. Travel trailer is how it is worded I don't know how they would treat a horse trailer at 14,900# particularly if it had living quarters.

If you need to know more just ask. I have a commercial class A driver's license and my commercial handbook is around here somewhere.

 

"You can only tow a bumper pull trailer with a rating plate up to 9999# with a standard class C license."

Big Sky Rancher,
Does this mean if my truck has a GVWR of 11400 that i have to have a special License
to pull a trailer?