European vs. USA Truck
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European vs. USA Truck
I live in Switzerland and I have an F-150 2004 Screw.
I started comparing my truck with Ford's European Ford Ranger payload capacity. The Ford Ranger in Europe has an 2.5l diesel (146Hp and 330Nm).
Ranger payload is about 1000kg (about 2200lbs).
F-150 2004 Screw payload is about 1500 to 1600lbs?!
If I look at the construction (frame and in real life the rear axle,etc.) I have to say that F-150 is much more "heavy duty" build.
I can't imagine the EU Ranger carrying 1000kgs without big problems. www.ford.de you can see the truck.
I'm wondering why this difference in payloads (F-150 has much more space in cubics). Does the USA Ford (generally the USA truck manufacturers ) have much more safety margin or what?
I started comparing my truck with Ford's European Ford Ranger payload capacity. The Ford Ranger in Europe has an 2.5l diesel (146Hp and 330Nm).
Ranger payload is about 1000kg (about 2200lbs).
F-150 2004 Screw payload is about 1500 to 1600lbs?!
If I look at the construction (frame and in real life the rear axle,etc.) I have to say that F-150 is much more "heavy duty" build.
I can't imagine the EU Ranger carrying 1000kgs without big problems. www.ford.de you can see the truck.
I'm wondering why this difference in payloads (F-150 has much more space in cubics). Does the USA Ford (generally the USA truck manufacturers ) have much more safety margin or what?
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unless the European Ranger frame/suspension is beefed up, I can tell you right now that a Ranger can't take more than about 1000 lbs.
Myself and 2 buds in the back of a Ranger can make it bottom out (axle sit on the bump stops of the bed). We weigh about 750lbs or so together. Yeah, we're big boys.
Myself and 2 buds in the back of a Ranger can make it bottom out (axle sit on the bump stops of the bed). We weigh about 750lbs or so together. Yeah, we're big boys.
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the trucks can deff. hold more than they say, but
something seems wrong with your #s. Like Tylus said, if you put that kind of weight in one of our Rangers, it would be sitting on the frame. Off topic. What kind of kpg or mpg do you get? What are you paying for gas and or diesel over there? We are at about $2.75 per.gal. for gas. I tried to go to the site. Kind of tough when you don't speak the language.
something seems wrong with your #s. Like Tylus said, if you put that kind of weight in one of our Rangers, it would be sitting on the frame. Off topic. What kind of kpg or mpg do you get? What are you paying for gas and or diesel over there? We are at about $2.75 per.gal. for gas. I tried to go to the site. Kind of tough when you don't speak the language.
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When I lived in West Germany for a few years folks didnt drive thousands of miles every month (well hundreds anyway) like typical Americans. Heck West Germany is only about the size of Texas. Gas way back then was 4 bucks a gallon and we were rationed how much we could purchase (us military).
One thing I do remember then though... thier wages were sky high compared to ours. Kinda made up for the extreme price difference. And Mercedes and Audi were taxi cabs. You wont find that here in the USA. Its real hard to truly compare apples to oranges. Another reason they pay so much is they dont have any natural resources and import most of it.....like we import high priced European products.
A ranger with a payload of 2000 lbs.... Heh, even a super duty cant beat that.
One thing I do remember then though... thier wages were sky high compared to ours. Kinda made up for the extreme price difference. And Mercedes and Audi were taxi cabs. You wont find that here in the USA. Its real hard to truly compare apples to oranges. Another reason they pay so much is they dont have any natural resources and import most of it.....like we import high priced European products.
A ranger with a payload of 2000 lbs.... Heh, even a super duty cant beat that.
Last edited by HomerWinzlow; 04-12-2007 at 06:37 PM.
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A gallon in gas costs in Switzerland about 6.25 Swiss Francs which is about 5.2USD. Germany is a bit higher due to their taxes otherwise it is in almost every EU country the more or less the same. Baltic states are exceptions they have a much lower taxation, lower gas price maybe 25% lower.
Back to European Ford Ranger -- visit this website and figure yourself. It is in English.
http://www.ford.co.uk/safari/ranger/...608_wl/-/-/-/-
I don't understand this anymore... do you?!? My F-150 is supposed to be a less tougher vehichle than the smaller European one -- same manufacturer!?!?
Back to European Ford Ranger -- visit this website and figure yourself. It is in English.
http://www.ford.co.uk/safari/ranger/...608_wl/-/-/-/-
I don't understand this anymore... do you?!? My F-150 is supposed to be a less tougher vehichle than the smaller European one -- same manufacturer!?!?
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I just spent 1/2 hour fooling with this. For some reason USA ford page doesn't give rander weight specs. but does give 150 weight specs. A European ranger 4 door pickup can carry 2590 lbs. and the same truck in a USA 150 can only hold 1300 lbs. Now, I was thinking about the older Rangers, I haven't looked much at new ones. It's funny that I couldn't find weight specs. for USA Ranger. Very strange. This deserves further investigation. We can't even get a diesel in a 150. A Ranger with a diesel has got to be a whole other animal that our Rangers, I'd think. The trucks have different grills also. Sorry for questioning you. Sometimes the way you write things don't always come out the way it's meant.
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http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/features/specs/ Super crew 4x4 payload is 1300 to 1600 approx. The weight of the extra doors uses up a lot of the payload. I just found that a USA ranger payload is about 1300 to 1600 also, depending on cab configuration.
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SUPERCREW 4x4 139 4.6L 1430 6900
5.4L 1630 7200
4.6L 1300 6900
5.4L 1500 7200
first is max. payload and the larger number is GVWR. http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/features/specs/
The diesel for the European Ranger is 2.5l -- not more! With larger payload than F-150! Sorry for repeating but I think this must be a design margin issue... USA trucks have more in the reserve than a European truck. I load my F-150 Screw every summer with 4 persons (totally about 260kg) plus 5 dogs (4 large ones =another 200kg) plus luggage for a 4 weeks trips!!
I do not see/feel any difference to my unloaded truck.
5.4L 1630 7200
4.6L 1300 6900
5.4L 1500 7200
first is max. payload and the larger number is GVWR. http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/features/specs/
The diesel for the European Ranger is 2.5l -- not more! With larger payload than F-150! Sorry for repeating but I think this must be a design margin issue... USA trucks have more in the reserve than a European truck. I load my F-150 Screw every summer with 4 persons (totally about 260kg) plus 5 dogs (4 large ones =another 200kg) plus luggage for a 4 weeks trips!!
I do not see/feel any difference to my unloaded truck.
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Originally Posted by gui88ford
i'm not sure where you guys are seeing that a F150 can only have 1,300 lbs in the bed......
it's 3,060 payload
it's 3,060 payload
Click on "Payload package selector" and you'll see a chart with different model F150s and their payload.
Also, starting on page 218 on your '07 owner's manual is information on loading. There is a decal on the B pillar, just behind the driver's side door that will state tire and loading information. Your '07 Scab should have a payload of 1750 lbs....mine has a payload of just over 1500 lbs.
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When I went on the Ford site from over there, they didn't show full size pickup's. I was wondering, how is it that you have one? Just curious. So if I'm right and they don't offer full size pickup's, then maybe this is how they cover that market. Not to take away from you argument, because I do think you are on to something, but you are loosing a lot of payload with that big interior. What kind of cab is on the Ranger? It was half decent day yesterday so actually got on my HD and road to Ford dealer to get a brochure it didn't have anything on payload. The salesman had to dig it up in his info. I'm on it with you buddy. I NEED TO GET A LIFE. LOL.