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Old 04-08-2007, 07:41 PM
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Help!! M50D-R2 mate with BW1350 T-case

Hi guy's, I bought today a 1988 f150 302 4x4 manual. This truck is a donor vehicle for my 1992 Ranger 4.0 4x4 manual, that I'm converting to a 302
My question is, my Ranger has the M50D-R1, and I believe the F150 has The M50D-R2. If infact I have the M50D-R2 in the F150, will it mate to my Ranger BW1350 transfer case without an adapter???, or am I screwed and have to get another transmission?

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Old 04-09-2007, 02:51 PM
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You should have the M5R2 in the F-150 behind the 302. Couldn't you use the transfer case that is in the F-150 in your swap? It would be the BW-1356 and I would assume it is stronger than the 1350.
 
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Old 04-09-2007, 11:44 PM
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Originally I didn't want to have my driveshafts modified, and that was the reason to keep to original 1350. Now that I found out my M50D-R2 won't fit to the T-case, and no adapters are available for this model tranny, it definately seems like the 1356 is the way to go for my ranger. I'm definately trying to find the easiest, cheapest way to do the swap.

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Old 04-10-2007, 07:54 AM
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So it wouldn't bolt up? I've never played with the little trucks, but all the fullsize truck tranny's and xfer cases (with exception to the NP205 and E4OD/4R100) interchange.

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Old 04-10-2007, 09:41 AM
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I thought that from about the middle of 1977 to 1996 (I'm not sure about after that) all the Ford full size trucks used a "married" transfer cases with a standard 6 bolt New Process flange bolt pattern with (IIRC) a 31 spline transmission output shaft. I just did a manual trans swap in my F-150 and the transfer case (BW 1356) that was on the 1992 E4OD bolted right up to the 1996 ZF.

The reason I bring this up is that the BW 1356 is rather wide. My DD is a 2wd '05 Ranger. I haven't measured or anything but it looks like if there was a 1356 attached to the trans that it would be a tight fit laterally with the frame. If that's the case and the 1350 won't work, an NP 203 or 205 are narrower and might work better.
 
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by gustang818
I thought that from about the middle of 1977 to 1996 (I'm not sure about after that) all the Ford full size trucks used a "married" transfer cases with a standard 6 bolt New Process flange bolt pattern with (IIRC) a 31 spline transmission output shaft. I just did a manual trans swap in my F-150 and the transfer case (BW 1356) that was on the 1992 E4OD bolted right up to the 1996 ZF.

The reason I bring this up is that the BW 1356 is rather wide. My DD is a 2wd '05 Ranger. I haven't measured or anything but it looks like if there was a 1356 attached to the trans that it would be a tight fit laterally with the frame. If that's the case and the 1350 won't work, an NP 203 or 205 are narrower and might work better.
Well you're right all full sizes use the same flange, unfortunately The fullsize flange(1356) is a 6 bolt round, and the Ranger's(1350) is a 6 bolt rectangular. It might be the other way around, I don't remember which is which.
I am a little worried about fitment myself.... unfortunately I won't know until I get under there. I know it has been done, but how I'll make it fit I'm not sure. I'm preparing myself for some headaches.
The other problem I'm facing is the M50D-R2 shifter position, it's in the front half of the cover. M50D-R1 placed the shifter on the rear half of the cover.... so I'll probably have to modify the tunnel opening, and modify the shifter to clear the dash. Fun fun fun!!!

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Old 04-10-2007, 10:37 AM
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From what I understand, they notch the frame and/or clock the transfer case (rotate it to gain clearance and drill new holes in the trans tailshaft flange. The full size are round:
 
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Old 04-10-2007, 10:50 AM
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Is that ZF tranny??? that tranny is monsterous. Thanx for that note, I sorta figured I'd have to notch the frame in the worst case of scenarios. Now I know!

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Yup, diagonal ribbing gives the ZF away as a quick spotting detail.

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Old 04-10-2007, 02:28 PM
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It's a lot deeper top to bottom than the M5R2 and the ZF weighs about 175 lbs or so. But it's a lightweight compared to the E4OD. I'm only slightly exagerating when I say the E4OD weighs as much as some import cars.
 
 
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