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Old 03-16-2007, 09:22 PM
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Truck won't start unless I jump starter solenoid

Truck won't start unless I jump starter solenoid w/booster. Doesn't even click.
Also have no power to gauges and speedo doesn't work.

Last wk the same thing happened to the gauges and speedo but it started and ran fine - then everything just started working again.

Also last night I fell asleep in the truck w/it running -long day- and a couple of times I heard what sounded like the bendix tring to engage for a few seconds.

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Old 03-17-2007, 10:51 AM
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i would go ahead and change the starter it sounds like your bendix is going out, sounds like you had a hard day to fall asleep in the truck. ive found that ford trucks are nice to sleep in ive feel asleep in mine a few times to campin or just had to much to drink
 
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Have you tested both the starter relay and for proper input to the starter relay from the ignition switch circuit?

Have you checked/cleaned your battery terminals and the battery cables?

Time to get your hands dirty and determine what is actually wrong before you start swapping crap out.

Also, indicate your year, engine, and transmission. Those details are important in looking up the correct diagrams.

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think it's the ignition switch

I checked to see if there is any power going to the small wire on the solenoid when I turn the key and there's not- so I think vit's in the switch or neutral saftey circuit.

Any ideas

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Old 03-18-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by jpmcabe
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Any ideas

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Yeah. Try answering the posed questions if you want accurate diagnostic data.

We ain't psychic. You have to answer specific questions in order to get specific technical information.

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i'm thinking corroded battery cable.
 
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Old 03-19-2007, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by thehawk789
i'm thinking corroded battery cable.
I doubt it..

If that were so, the starter would not have engaged when the starter relay was jumped.

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Old 03-19-2007, 08:23 AM
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98 f150 4x4 4.6Thanks
 
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Originally Posted by jpmcabe
98 f150 4x4 4.6Thanks

...and which transmission.......

c'mon, man. If you want help, you have to help yourself first....
 
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My guess,
Well I cant....we need more info...is this a new thing or has it done it before like this ect. It sounds like it may have something to to with the neutral safety switch but then again lack of any gauges could be a computer issue...while its running w/o gauges is it doing so rough ect.
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Auto trans w/overdrive button on shift lever. If there are more than one option on the tranny I don't know which one it is. Could use some help identifing.

Sorry for my ignorance

Thanks
 
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No worries,
If you post up the info from the sticker on the door it should clue us in a bit more. One thing you can do is go to a parts store like Autozone...and have them read the codes for you....you can give us the results and we whould be able to help from there..that is assuming its even throwing codes which I think it would be at this point lol.
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Having codes read at a parts store is only suggested if you have a CEL and don't have your own scanner. There's no point in doing that here.

Likewise, we don't need the door sticker info, either.

Now that we know what the year, engine, and transmisssion are, the correct diagram can be pulled.

Your problem will be one of the following:

Ignition switch

Fuse F20 (50A) Underhood

Fuse F21 (15A) Underdash

Starter interrupt relay if equipped with Remote Anti-tehft Personality (RAP). Relay is located behind right side of dash on RAP-equipped vehicles.

Jumper at Clutch Pedal Position (CPP) switch

Digital Transmission Range (DTR) sensor on transmission (AKA Neutral safety switch on older systems)

Any of the interconnecting wiring.

Add in any after-market remote starters or starter diasables should they be present.

Steve
 
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Old 03-19-2007, 03:01 PM
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I would first follow the positive wire up to the starter solenoid, which is on your fire wall. If you have no gauges you may have a bad connection at the solenoid. All of your electronics come off of that solenoid. The post where the wire from the battery attaches will have other wires attached also. Make sure they are all in good working order there. This will control guages and everything else. Do you have interior lights or dash lights or buzzers when none of this is working?
 
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Having codes read at a parts store is only suggested if you have a CEL and don't have your own scanner. There's no point in doing that here.

Steve
Well, he hadnt been very specific as to the nature of his problem now had he As far as the sticker goes I suggested that to help narrow down which trans he had if he did not know

And if hes got an auto...why would you even recomend:
Originally Posted by projectSHO89

Jumper at Clutch Pedal Position (CPP) switch

Steve
Just wondering
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