I'll run my stroker 'til she dies ( a LOONNNNGGGG way off) but after that, a Cummins is going under there - maybe by then, they'll be making a 6-speed Allison that's a double-overdrive that I can fit too!!! Man, can you imagine? The super-easy & relatively cheap massive power & reliability, and a tranny to help with mileage??? That could be a 26mpg Super Duty!! I'd have to re-dub her my Phenomenal Duty!!

I believe in building the best package - so I've got PMS like many of you do too! And if that means eventually swapping then entire motor, then so be it! To each his own! Just don't you DARE build a Cobra replica with a Chevy smallblock!!

 

I agree with papa, a Cummins is the only motor I would put in if the psd ever has to come out. It's not like it's a dodge motor. I had a 92' 12 valve and one time the alt. took a dump on me when I was about 200 miles from home and I just kept driving it after a while I had no power at all. No gauges, turn signals, brakelights, and no trailer brakes (did mention that I was towing as well). It was funny The only power it needed was just the smallest amount to hold the fuel shut-off solenoid open. I got with in 30 miles of home when It finally quit running because I had to hit the brakes and the brake lights took the last bit of power the batteries had. By that time I had my dad in route with a new alt.

 

When you bleed blue, its hard to accept there might be something better.


When you ride in a PSD with compound turbos, and 100 PSI, you dont think about a Cummins.

Even tho its more expensive to modify a Ford, I'd much rather have a hot Ford than a dime a dozen Cummins. my .02

 

I used to be one of those die hard brand name people. Nobody could ever touch the brand i thought was supreme, and most of that is from my raising. What dad taught me, what we worked on, what we owned. Ive since grown out of that phase. Some people never will. Nobody makes the perfect truck, and whether most of us want to admit it or not, they are becoming more, and more alike. Especially were it counts, (drivetrain). Besides the occaisional corporate axle, such as the sterling rear, which in the big 3, is the only one corporate axle left, besides gms ifs center section, all axles are made by DANA/Spicer, and AAM. (american axle manufacturing) Transfer cases, are all made by either borg warner, or more commonly new venture gear/ new process. The manual transmissions, are the same, way, all accross the board. The only real difference between current model trucks drive train, is the motor anymore. Nobody really makes the rest of the drive train, and when it comes down to it, the manufacturers dont even make their diesel motors. Ford buys international, Chevy buys isuzu, Dodge buys cummins. Its all outsourced. When you go to improve "your" truck, it doesnt matter what brand it came out of. When you are building your truck, you are the manufacturer, or remanufacturer. Why put anything less then the best parts? Or the more cost effective solution, or just to be different, yet still in a positive way. If the cummins is the easy to make power, reliability, and simplicity, then whats the problem? I hate to hear it when people say oh its a dodge part, or oh its a chevy part, or oh its a ford part, why would i "cross breed". Maybe because its a better part then what came on your truck, and it just happen to come on a truck manufactured by someone else. That manufacturer didnt even make the part, they outsourced it. A dana 80, is a dana 80, is a dana 80, it doesnt matter if it came out of a chevrolet, ford or dodge, when you get a dana 80, you got one. So you want to get rid of the sterling rear, and put in a bigger/tougher one for towing, or whatever use does it really matter were it came from? Lets say your PSD motor finaly croaks, which sounds like it takes a long time, as people have shown 1/2 a mil plus miles, and you dont want to spend 10k on a new one, because you have a line on a 6bt, from a bread truck, for 1000, and you got the time to do the work it. Sure seems the cost effective way to me, and its a great motor, there no loss. UNLESS, your a die hard "purifist" that says, no, im too proud to do something that makes sense, and is functional. Ill just drop the 10k to show my pride. Im sorry for those of you who ill offend in this post, i guess im just tired of the one and only brand name attitude. Sometimes each manufacturer did NOT use what could be the ultimate part. They built their vehicle for the general public, i mean ford made the 74 pinto for God's sake, chevy made the chevette, and dodge, made some things that were rusting on the show room floor. Like i said, sorry to those i offend, but that is just what i think. And im really not trying to start a pissing contest, or anything like that, just point out some things that some people just might not have known.

 

I could not of said it any better.

 

I was kind of hoping Navistar and Ford wouldn't reach an agreement on their dispute over warranty repair costs in order to force Ford to look at using another manufacturer (see this link). But it appears Navistar will resume production of the new 6.4L Diesel engines.

I like my 7.3 but wouldn't mind having a choice of a Cummins or Cat if I were in the market for a new F Series.

 

its like you were reading my mind!!! i am right there with you!!

 

Well, if you do pull your PowerStroke out, it won't be PMS any longer. It will be "CMS" which has no ring to it whatsoever.

 

HAHA thats awesome! Nice Video

 

i think that the cummins is a good idea.....but ive got 183,00 on the clock and still going strong.... the only thing i have noticed is that everything that is bolted to the motor is showing its age; i.e. new turbo, hpop, water pump, and now i have 1 or 2 injectors that are rattleing really bad!! hmmm new injectors?? tax return?? i think im starting to PMS !! (which brand??)

 

At least it ain't "CRS"...

 

i dont get it..

 

Cummins Repair Syndrome?

Cummins Really Suck?

 

Dang -- I figured everyone knew what CRS was...

CRS = "Can't Remember S*#t". It's what happens when you get old, like me...

 

Screw cummins, I know CAT diesels 40 years old still running with orginal engine parts(less some springs and gaskets). Imagine a MASSIVE CAT I-6 putting out so much torque that you have to buy chromoly Studs B/C your ringing bolts right off your rear axel, and still getting 20-35 mpg. I love CAT and if my INT. dies, I'm gonna look for a block out of some heavy equipment and see how hard it is to get a square peg into a round hole. Plus CAT yellow is really cool! How can you not love this?

http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85521&x=7


Tell me that doesn't make your blood run hot!!!!