Ford Bashes Toyota Hard : Act of Deperation or Truth?
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Ford Bashes Toyota Hard : Act of Deperation or Truth?
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Ford completely reworked the F150 using the latest and greatest manufacturing technology. That hydroformed frame is a real big deal and it definitely makes a stronger truck. But, none of that new technology is being used in the Superduties. It's interesting that the video is bashing the Toyota but the Superduty is built with alot of the same flaws. Don't get me wrong....I wouldn't buy the Toyota but I sure would like to see the hydroformed frame make its way into the Superduties. The F150's "boxed" front end would be nice in the Superduty too....
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personaly for a light duty truck, i'd stick with a Ford (or yes even a chevy). we owned a 98 F150 that worked great!
a guy i work with had his tacoma clutch fry at 3800 miles, for a left over 06 not impressive there!
i always remember the first three letters "TOY"!! but i'm sure with all there new additions they will sell to the 1/2 ton croud.........
i'm not a TOY fan except for the small, early 80's solid axle trucks, they work pretty good for hunting/trail trucks.........drop a small block in the and go to town, haha!
a guy i work with had his tacoma clutch fry at 3800 miles, for a left over 06 not impressive there!
i always remember the first three letters "TOY"!! but i'm sure with all there new additions they will sell to the 1/2 ton croud.........
i'm not a TOY fan except for the small, early 80's solid axle trucks, they work pretty good for hunting/trail trucks.........drop a small block in the and go to town, haha!
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Yeah, well we had an 05 6.0 that was in the shop multiple times in the first 7000 miles for engine problems that made the vehicle-an ambulance, undrivable.
IMO-Desperation. Basicly the whole video was more babble about how they got where they are today as a whole. We've been popular for years and it's going to stay like that no matter what because everyone loves us!
They took your car market. It's gone. No one wants domestic cars anymore. Most don't anyway.
Ford had better wise up. Stop talking and start building. Your truck is overweight, underpowered, and slow.
Mike
IMO-Desperation. Basicly the whole video was more babble about how they got where they are today as a whole. We've been popular for years and it's going to stay like that no matter what because everyone loves us!
They took your car market. It's gone. No one wants domestic cars anymore. Most don't anyway.
Ford had better wise up. Stop talking and start building. Your truck is overweight, underpowered, and slow.
Mike
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Lol? Compared to the competition it might weight more, have less power, and is slower but if thats all you care about then go buy a Toyota car (they're light, have good hp for the weight and im sure is pretty fast). Around here i see noting but those 150's with ladder racks and tool boxes. It does the job and does it well...thats what the customers wants and ford delivers.
That guy is for sure annoying as heck but from what i just saw on that video...ide smack anyone related to me if they bought that thing(Toyeti).
Since the 6.0L engine isnt FOMOCO you cant totally blame ford...from the factory the tech could have torqued the valves to tight, stuck in a faulty rod, the wireing for the injector could have been bad from the factory.
Ford's doing it right. The new 08's are noting but impressive and might not have as much HP at the Cummins or Duracrap but i dont see ANY of those truck towing 24,000 LBS.
And have you seen the NEW F150's? Whoooah look out.
That guy is for sure annoying as heck but from what i just saw on that video...ide smack anyone related to me if they bought that thing(Toyeti).
Since the 6.0L engine isnt FOMOCO you cant totally blame ford...from the factory the tech could have torqued the valves to tight, stuck in a faulty rod, the wireing for the injector could have been bad from the factory.
Ford's doing it right. The new 08's are noting but impressive and might not have as much HP at the Cummins or Duracrap but i dont see ANY of those truck towing 24,000 LBS.
And have you seen the NEW F150's? Whoooah look out.
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WOW...a very fast talker!
IMO...Just shows how well Toyota built the new Tundra. They did copy a lot of ideas from FORD, so FORD should be PROUD! Now FORD just needs to step up with the next F150 and make it better. Nothing wrong with good 'ole competition! WE benefit in the END!!!
Oh...I like how he smashes the 5.7L...with fuel economy. That's pretty fresh...
Would I buy a '07 Tundra??? NOPE!
biz
IMO...Just shows how well Toyota built the new Tundra. They did copy a lot of ideas from FORD, so FORD should be PROUD! Now FORD just needs to step up with the next F150 and make it better. Nothing wrong with good 'ole competition! WE benefit in the END!!!
Oh...I like how he smashes the 5.7L...with fuel economy. That's pretty fresh...
Would I buy a '07 Tundra??? NOPE!
biz
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Originally Posted by supeRobertduty
Does that guy work for FORD ? And do you think FORD paid him for that ?
I dont know , Just wondering
I dont know , Just wondering
http://www.fordvehicles.com/trucks/f150/truth/
He's suposed to be the TRUTH guy. His claims on the YouTube vid. are so outlandish that they don't even deserve discussion. Just listen to his garbage about the engine and then check fuel mileage ratings or the grill stuff which is just inane. Plus the frame as mentioned is not hydroformed on the Superduty.
Overboard and desperate.
I just expected more class from Ford.
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Originally Posted by jimh425
but I couldn't find fault with what he said.
I'd be interested to hear what you think was wrong since I couldn't pick it out.
I'd be interested to hear what you think was wrong since I couldn't pick it out.
Guy is bang on when he is talking about frames, the F150 is 20 years ahead of them on that. Guy doesnt have a clue what he is talking about on the engine, Ford is so far behind that Toyata V8, it wont be funny. Do any Fords come factory equiped with headers? Big brakes, dont act like you invented it Ford. Ring & Pinion come up to standard what?? Ford only uses a 10.5 in the SD compared to the 11.5 in Chev & dodge. Styling, who cares about your subjective opinion, I dont think my SD interior is better than Dodge or GM either.
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Originally Posted by Fordbronco69
Lol? Compared to the competition it might weight more, have less power, and is slower but if thats all you care about then go buy a Toyota car (they're light, have good hp for the weight and im sure is pretty fast). Around here i see noting but those 150's with ladder racks and tool boxes. It does the job and does it well...thats what the customers wants and ford delivers.
Just something I've noticed. It could be because Ford has priced the Superduty out of the range of a work truck.
Ford is getting desperate and is now just talking smack.
The 150 is a good truck, but it's nothing special. Even if they didn't add 1 horse to the 5.4, at least give it a 5 or 6 speed auto and 4.10 rear end. That would help by leaps and bounds.
Mike
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