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Old 02-25-2007, 02:02 PM
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I am now going with a 40x60x14 steel building, most likely on a 4' footer, with doors in the ends to drive straight through. 14' square side-roll doors with an overhead trolley system, etc. I am now trying to find a place that's somewhat out of town, but has 3ph power. I may have to run a generator for that........
You could get a 3ph converter if you have low HP requirements. example: http://www.isomatic.co.uk/3phConvertor.htm
 

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Well you guys have got the gears going in my head...and George $22K is a little much for my blood..as I bought this 100 year old fixer upper 4 years ago on 2 acre's for $30K..LOL..yeah its junk alright..but with the wood burner going it aint bad!! LOL..

Thats a good Idea about having a G2G party ay my house!! I'll even buy the Beer..after the work is done and BBQ too!! I cant probably park 20 trucks on the place and another 15 or so across the road..So let me know when and we'll build some !! LOL..But good Idea..where can you get into a party for a Couple 2x4's and a few nails!! LOL..you guys are a trip I swear!!

And George..I have been offered by Ben to take my 463" motor build to his Garage and build it there in exchange for tuning his Monster Truck!! He'sa good guy!! and funny for someone that doesnt drink beer!! LOL.

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Originally Posted by bigredtruckmi
You could get a 3ph converter if you have low HP requirements. example: http://www.isomatic.co.uk/3phConvertor.htm
The downside of that is that to build a rotary converter, you need an idler motor of the same size or larger than the motor being run, and electronics don't really like fake 3ph.
I need three phase power for an iron worker/ buffalo (25hp), and either an abrasive jet table (50hp) or a laser cut table. So, big idler motor, or just not use that system.
I am actually thinking of finding a chunk of property a little further out, with a decent year-round stream, and do all the permitting required to install a hydroelectric system capable of supporting a couple houses and my shop. I'll probably invest about $240k, but get that back in a few years selling power back to the electric company.
 
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Sounds like a fishing pond might be built as a side benefit
 
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I would stay away from those package deals. Tried to put up a 24 x32 (from 84) for a friend a few years ago, we ended up sending it back and designed our own. George
my neighbor bought an 84 kit to build his entire house..NO problems...they are very happy.

whatever you do, make sure it meets your state AND COUNTY codes...here in NY, some towns even have more stringent codes...and snow loads...and earthquake ratings!!!
 

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If you are far enuf out where the codes don't come into play much you might look into getting a few shipping containers for the side "walls" and roofing over a center space in between them. Put overhead doors or barn type sliders on the ends. Welded together with some expanding foam in between, treated for rust with some Rust Bullet and mobile home roof coating on them they may last for a long time.
 
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Codes only apply to permanent structures- if it's not on a foundation set into the ground, it's not permanent.
 
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It depends... Some places regulate everything.

There would have to be some sort of supporting foundation under the containers or they would sink into the ground and tear the structure apart.
 

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Codes only apply to permanent structures- if it's not on a foundation set into the ground, it's not permanent.
then a pole barn type construction wouldn't qualify with your definition.

I like to avoid the Codes guy as much as possible...BUT, remember one thing, depending on your codes, your town supervisor, board and most importantly your insurance company, if something happens to your structure and/or its contents, YOU might end up taking the loss...not theguys on this site.
 
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I like to avoid the Codes guy as much as possible...BUT, remember one thing, depending on your codes, your town supervisor, board and most importantly your insurance company, if something happens to your structure and/or its contents, YOU might end up taking the loss...not theguys on this site.[/QUOTE]

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That is a very good point.
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I wonder who around here sells those used shipping containers..and what the width's are height and length?? That might make for a long narrow garage? Hmmmmm..

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In a pole barn the poles ARE the foundation.

You would not use the containers for the garage/shop. Use the containers for the side walls and as storage space.
 
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I wonder who around here sells those used shipping containers..and what the width's are height and length?? That might make for a long narrow garage? Hmmmmm..

Russ
most shipping containers are 8Wx8Hx40L
this will give you 7.5 inner width.
there are variations, with 23,45,48,and 53 foot lenghts, but the 23,48,and 53's are the current sizes, and cost on them is a premium.
depending how far you are from a port, you can get the 40's dirt cheap.
 
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Codes only apply to permanent structures- if it's not on a foundation set into the ground, it's not permanent.
Sheds sitting on dirt are permanent structures here in SE WI. I'm allowed two exterior buildings on my property so when I build my shop I have to take down my lawn tractor shed. Kind of lame really.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport
most shipping containers are 8Wx8Hx40L
this will give you 7.5 inner width.
there are variations, with 23,45,48,and 53 foot lenghts, but the 23,48,and 53's are the current sizes, and cost on them is a premium.
depending how far you are from a port, you can get the 40's dirt cheap.
Well I could work with a couple of 40's...I leive about 250 miles inland from the ports in Virginia, Norfolf,Va Beach etc...

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