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Installed 4" Lift and now the front tired tilt inwards! HELP!

I have a 1989 Eddie Bauer with 35 inch tires and I put a 4" lift kit on it. Now the front tired look like this

\----/ Even when the car is on the ground. It seems to handle fine and work well, but it just doesn't look right. What am I missing? What do I need to adjust? Thanks!
 
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get the front-end aligned.
 
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Installed 4" Lift and now the front tired tilt inwards! HELP!

And quick, your tires don't like that position.
 
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I would wait a month or so before having it aligned, and most likely you won't be changing anything.
I've had two Broncos with Rancho and Pro-Comp lifts and both threw off the tire alignment as yours did. Both trucks settled down after a month of driving, especially if I took it off road and thrashed it a bit to work the suspension. Both times I took the truck in to have it aligned and was told they were off by 1/2 degree, and not worth doing because most likely it would be off 1/2 degree in the opposite direction. (caster or camber, I always forget which one). It was about $100 to have it done so I opted not.
It will just wear the outside edge of the tires a bit more than the rest (on 10" offset wheels) and by the time it's noticeable, it's about time to get new tires anyway.
 
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You need to get a alignment. I have had several lift kits and never have had the tires at the angle you describe. I do not agree with the previous post about letting your suspension work in!!!! There has to be some reason your tires ended up at that angle.Take it to a alignment shop and most of them will tell you what is wrong for free.Did you install the lift? If you had a shop do it I would bring it back and get them to fix it. If you did the lift yourself the tie rods have to be adjusted to compensate for the new height(meaning alighnment)
 
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Get the truck aligned, you will ruin your tires especially if you have mud terrains. I hope your lift kit came with camber bushings, if not you will probably have to buy some from the alignment shop. Plan on having it aligned in about 2 months once the springs settle some because then the tires will sit the other direction.
 
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I didn't do mine myself, Off Road Unlimited did it and thats what they told me both times. And both times I took it in to get it aligned at different shops, and both times they said it was off half a degree and not to do anything about it. The first time I even had them write down the alignment measurements and took it back to Off Road Unlimited to see what they said. They said don't do anything.
I think he will be wasting his money to go to an alignment shop unless they are off camber by some ridiculous angle. It was $59.95 for my "free check". Wasted money. After driving it a few months, they do settle in and now they look almost flat. I replaced 4 tires just two months ago when I picked up a spike, and decided to get 3 new and used the spare so I wouldn't have different tread (about 50% gone on old tires). Very little sign of outside wear on the old tires.
Here is what my report said:
Left Front Right Front
Camber/ Caster/ Toe Camber/ Caster/ Toe
+.77* +4.31* +0.01" +1.07* +5.39* +0.02"

Front Totals
Total Toe CrossCamber CrossCaster
+0.03" -.30* -1.08*

It said preffered is:
Camber +.25*
Caster +4.00*
Toe +0.01"

* = degrees

More or less greek to me but it rides fine and no problem tire wear. Actually better than my older Bronco.
 
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Thanks for the advice. I don't think these are going to settle down though. I have been driving on them for about 3 1/2 weeks because I thought the same thing and they are still at the same angle as when I installed the kit.

I did check the tread wear and it seems even but it only has been 3 1/2 weeks with no off-roading.

Thanks for the advice!


 
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when you lifted it did you install axle pivot drop brackets, or just lift springs, that would create the problem you are having.
 
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just lift springs....and new shocks...not pitman or whatever you were talking about either...


 
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You need the axle pivot drop brackets. If you don't, you will be spending more in tires during your daily driving than in gas. Did you buy a kit or just springs? Most kits have the brackets with them. If you just bought srpings, you will need to get the brackets. A pitman arm is also a good idea, but not necessary for a 4" lift.
 
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point me to a good place to get the brackets? Thanks!


 
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 21-Oct-02 AT 07:34 PM (EST)]I do agree you have to have the axle drop brackets for this lift. I thought by reading your post you had bought a complete lift. the axle must be lowered to compensate for the taller springs. If this was a two inch leveling lift you would be okay but with four inches you need the brackets. superlift has the brackets. Oh and by the way where I live les schwab tire company tells you what is wrong or gives you a estimate for free.
 
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