FYI, PSD's were NEVER based on gasoline motors.

The 6.9 IDI and later 7.3IDI did have their roots in a gasser.

The 7.3 PSD and 7.3 IDI are NOT related.

(Nor are the 6.0 or 6.4 PSD's related at all to the 7.3 PSD)

 

ok, my bad. I just read that on an online encyclopedia (i have no firsthand knlowledge one way or the other)

Here is the article:

"introduced in 1995, the Power Stroke is a family of turbodiesel truck engines used in Ford F-Series trucks, the Ford Econoline van, the Ford LCF commercial truck, and the Ford Excursion SUV. The Power Stroke is manufactured by Navistar International Corporation (International Truck and Engine Corporation) and is based on a design for a gasoline-powered V8 from International Harvester. Four different engines have been made based on this original design, the 420 in³ (6.9 L), 445 in³ (7.3 L), 6 L (5,954 cc), and 6.4 L; the last three have used the Power Stroke name. These engines are built in Indianapolis, Indiana and Huntsville, Alabama."

Sorry bout that. Thanks for the correction. Now I get to feel stupid for trusting the internet haha

Isaac

 

I have been reading one news story to another and the numbers are conflicting. But it seems to have a consistant 37,400 which should be the total number of trucks produced (maybe because Navistar stopped delivery of the 6.4 because of non payment?) 8400 sold and the remaining 29000 held from sale and demo. Somehow to me that doesnt totally add up either. All I know is that I know a few guys that are gonna have a fit. One of which just traded in his 04 F350 loaded to the hilt problem child. Only to get a recall just a few days later? I think he is going to be the next Dodge owner in a couple of weeks. The other traded in his 04 Dodge that was perfect. I just cant stand to see these guys tomorrow. I talked them into these trucks.

The guys at "The Diesel Stop" are fit to be tied over there. Some have just been notified that their truck was finished from production but are now held in storage untill further notice? How long does it take to fill an order anyway. One says he has been waiting on his since 12-30-06 when he placed the order.

I know my guys didnt order theirs, just went to the local Ford dealer and bought them, MONDAY! They apparently JUST missed the hold order on deliveries.

 

No problem. For years I quoted a Navistar site that said the PSD was from the ground up diesel......so when people would say the Ford diesels were converted gassers, I'd link that site.

Then an FTE member (Cleatus12R) set my **** straight with the info I gave you..........

 

Ford needs a new Engine. theres gotta be something better than International.

 

A friend of mine told me that his boss just bought a SD with the 6.4 and already had to bring it back for a turbo problem and they told him the cab had to be lifted to work on the back turbo.

No joke, had to lift the whole cab to work on the back turbo.

 

Dump Navistar, get a real motor liek a Cat. something gotta happen cause thsi is a joke work a deal with sombody, Volvo motor? I see lots of big Volvo Jugauarnauts.

 

does CAT even make a 3/4 - 1 ton engine that would even close to fit in a SD? But jeez that would be nice to open the hood and see a nice, yellow block.

With all of this bad publicity and the SD line being Ford's bread and butter, is Ford doing as bad as it seems to be doing? I certainly hope not, but if ford doesn't shut up, stop making excuses, and shape up, we may be down to the Big 2 US automakers. Is that even possible? Could Ford actually go under, or are they not quite that dire yet?


**totally random stuff that I felt like posting**

I haven't heard it myself, but it seems that the 6.4 is eerily quiet. What happened to the clanky rumble and soot and stink of the older diesels?. Heck, I think thats half of the reason people buy 'em. I know is a big reason I like 'em. (besides the efficiency and low end grunt)

But speaking of turbo diesels, I was driving behind an Excursion with a 6.0 yesterday in stop and go traffic. HOLY CRAP! I've heard turbo whine before, but that thing sounded like a fighter jet! At first I though it was, but then at the next light i realized it was the X. Just thought that was interesting. Is that just an aftermarket exhaust to sound like that? Personally, I like the low end rumble more than the crazy loud turbo whine (although both in moderation is best)... but thats just my opinion

Isaac

 

I've heard a few 6.0 turbos from a block away that but most don't have the huge whine. I'm guessing there was either a problem with them or they do that when cold.

 

yeah, there must have been a problem becuase that was ridiculous. Ive heard other 6.0's but not like that. Especially on an X, which is (often) a family vehicle, that would prolly get really old with the wife (unless you find a real keeper who likes that kind of thing )

Isaac

 

Most Super Duties you have to do that - pretty darn easy to do it too...

 

those cabs have got to be pretty heavy. You must need a special lift, or a bunch of hefty guys...

When did they start designing the cabs to do work by lifting the cab, because that must have been a real PITA with the excursions, because the cab extends all the way to the rear bumper. Just curious

Not to get off-topic or anything

Isaac

 

You usually use a 2 post lift.

I am only familiar with the 99 up Super Duties - and I know they are designed to do this.

Its usually not that you can't change things like a turbocharger without lifting the cab - its just easier to do it by removing the cab thats all.

For example (if I recall correctly) you save about 2 hours by pulling the cab when replacing a 6.0l PSD, than by replacing the engine with the cab on (maybe a tech can chime in and confirm)

Excursions - it can be done, as far as I am aware - but the time savings aren't there...

 

Nope nothing wrong...He more than likely had 4-in exaust, and no muffler or cat.

Tim

 

They do make them for F550-750. But not for F250-350