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Old 02-08-2007, 08:10 AM
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well i can see everyones pt, but if i want my F to fly, ill just drop 5k and make it fly, i bought the truck for its looks,size and comfort, if i wanted speed i would have kept my srt-10. 500hp/515tq.
 
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If the horsepower race continues, I think we will see the same thing happen that eliminated muscle cars in the late 60s. Those of us that are old enough to remember will recall that insurance companies and the government eliminated the horsepower race. The insurance companies made insurance unaffordable on high horsepower hot rods and the government choked off horsepower with emission standards. Now, I can see insurance companies again surcharging for excessive horsepower and the government choking off horsepower with both emission and fuel mileage requirements.
 
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Originally Posted by cigarxtc
I'll still drive Ford trucks, but I gotta agree....the new full size Toy**ta truck commercials have gotten my attention. But don't tell my FTE buddies. lol.
Well, hopefully the recent toy recall of 500,000+ trucks and suv's for shoddy steering and suspension failure caught your attention as well. Likely not though, after all they didn't run it on the national news like they do when Ford has a recall. Par!
 
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:25 AM
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Well, hopefully the recent toy recall of 500,000+ trucks and suv's for shoddy steering and suspension failure caught your attention as well. Likely not though, after all they didn't run it on the national news like they do when Ford has a recall. Par!
Some of the examples of the recalls I have seen on Fords in the news: the Firestone tire fiasco, albeit not Fords fault but people did die! The houses and garages lost to the cruise control issue that caused trucks to spontanously combust!

I'm not too sure if the recalls for Toyota are from injuries or deaths, or just reaccuing problems that Toyota pin pointed as a recall issue ( if anyone has info on this please share! )

If anything this is better for Toyota, get the problem fixed now so the consumer will have confidence in the new model. I wish Ford would take that same stand in regards to helping out the consumers who had to pay for Ford's spark plug issue design flaw!
 
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DOHCmarauder
Bandit boy, how many Ford 1/2 tons have you seen with a V10..

I think even your own son is laughing at you......"Daddy, why do say such dumb things?"

Sure thing, I didn't know we were comparing Half Tons. You guys are really something, I'll make sure not to feed the fire. Geez. I wouldn't be surprise if this site end up with one user talking to himself DOHC. People like that just drive people away. I'll be sure to post where your not.

Maybe your son is laughing at you "DADDY, why do say such dumb things"....Somebody must of taught you how to "SPOKE". My son is smarter then that.
 

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^^^^ Can't all of us FTE brothers get along
 
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
....So for general overall usage, what would most buyers want in a "half ton" truck?.....
There is an elephant in the room (I think)...

Wasn't that the original IDEA behind marketing both a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton truck???

The 1/2 ton was there for the weekend warrior who wanted to make a run to the dump, or haul a load of firewood or some such - light duty. The 3/4 ton was there for the guy who had some SERIOUS pulling or hauling to do.......we had/have a choice.

So, I don't get it when I hear people complain about the 1/2 ton line-up not having enough HP, towing capacity, etc........"Dude, shoulda bought the 3/4 ton, eh?"

Conversely, I also don't get when I hear the 3/4 ton crowd bitch because their truck ain't gettin' 20 mpg......"Dude, shoulda bought the 1/2 ton, eh?"

Am I missin' something here?
 
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Originally Posted by RocketScience
There is an elephant in the room (I think)...

Wasn't that the original IDEA behind marketing both a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton truck???

The 1/2 ton was there for the weekend warrior who wanted to make a run to the dump, or haul a load of firewood or some such - light duty. The 3/4 ton was there for the guy who had some SERIOUS pulling or hauling to do.......we had/have a choice.

So, I don't get it when I hear people complain about the 1/2 ton line-up not having enough HP, towing capacity, etc........"Dude, shoulda bought the 3/4 ton, eh?"

Conversely, I also don't get when I hear the 3/4 ton crowd bitch because their truck ain't gettin' 20 mpg......"Dude, shoulda bought the 1/2 ton, eh?"

Am I missin' something here?
Great post!
 
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:47 PM
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everyone here has a good piont ...but we all agree on 2 things 1....FORD IS THE BEST TRUCK HANDS DOWN.............. 2 THEY SHOULD BE A LEADER OTHER THAN A FOLLOWER i just think fords focus is on other things (like the gt40 or the shelby mustang , which there is nothing wrong with those fine autos but the sells or maybe 20,000 a year) i mean ford,dodge, and yes even chevy invented horsepower, why not keep it that way. Could you see toyota in the 70's with a muscle car!!! HA 400hp COROLLA!!!
 
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Originally Posted by Fordsflylow
Well, hopefully the recent toy recall of 500,000+ trucks and suv's for shoddy steering and suspension failure caught your attention as well. Likely not though, after all they didn't run it on the national news like they do when Ford has a recall. Par!
I don't remember if i caught that one or not? I honestly don't pay much attention to the auto recalls much nowadays. There seem to be soo many of them and they dont affect our 2000 Passport, 1978 F150, and 1950 F1.

I'm sure all brands have their fair share of recalls. [the Ford Cruise control fires in the driveways is a recent one i can think of.]

I like that last post, 79muddbug. Yep, i'll hold onto my Ford trucks as long as i can. Hope to someday pass them down to my two boys.
 
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Originally Posted by RocketScience
There is an elephant in the room (I think)...
Wasn't that the original IDEA behind marketing both a 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton truck???
The 1/2 ton was there for the weekend warrior who wanted to make a run to the dump, or haul a load of firewood or some such - light duty. The 3/4 ton was there for the guy who had some SERIOUS pulling or hauling to do.......we had/have a choice.
So, I don't get it when I hear people complain about the 1/2 ton line-up not having enough HP, towing capacity, etc........"Dude, shoulda bought the 3/4 ton, eh?"

Conversely, I also don't get when I hear the 3/4 ton crowd bitch because their truck ain't gettin' 20 mpg......"Dude, shoulda bought the 1/2 ton, eh?"

Am I missin' something here?
The 1/2 ton has been around since the 1920's, the 3/4 ton didn't arrive till 1948 (F-2). Trucks then weren't bought by weekend warriors. In fact, it wasn't till the mid 1980's that trucks began to be purchased by weekend warriors. At that time, demographics changed..people fell in love with pickups, and you can't blame them. This was a direct result of boring, smogged up cars with blah styling.

The original concept of a 1/2 ton truck was daily workage, with the one ton and larger trucks doing the heavy work. The 3/4 ton F-2 was added to fill the gap between the F-1 (half ton) and F-3 (one ton) in 1948.

The people that whine, moan and pi$$ (I'm not one) about the 300 HP figure of the F150 don't use their trucks for much more than a daily driver, towing a boat, hauling ATV's to the camp site, or street racing. They also want more power (read=street racing), but whine about existing gas mileage figures. Ford doesn't build the 6200 lb F150 to satisfy the whims of leadfooted kids. But you'd never know that from all the whining.

Elephant in the room...LOL...at 6-5 325 lbs I fit the bill, but only for that reason!
 

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Old 02-08-2007, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by V10_Cougar
Sure thing, I didn't know we were comparing Half Tons. You guys are really something, I'll make sure not to feed the fire. Geez. I wouldn't be surprise if this site end up with one user talking to himself DOHC. People like that just drive people away. I'll be sure to post where your not.

Maybe your son is laughing at you "DADDY, why do say such dumb things"....Somebody must of taught you how to "SPOKE". My son is smarter then that.

Originally Posted by V10_Cougar
Hi,

i am V10 Cougar son Lee, i do know how to type, my dearest papa taught me and I am doing pretty good, I can spell better then most of my third graders and better then your son/daughter. I am 8 yrs old and won the spelling B at my school two times. I cant help my self to laugh at you. I just wish this site would have more of a constructive argument. Thanks dad for letting me in...

Lee


Seems to me the retard doesn't fall far from the tree..........


The fact that you bring up the V10 against the other makers' 1/2 ton offerings just solidifies how clueless you are.

If you wanted to compare the V10's torque, common sense would dictate you need to compare GM's 8.1 and Duramax....or Dodge's Cummins.


You come on here with multiple user names,(why the mods haven't noticed is beyond me) your babbling posts are nearly incoherent and then you pretend to have your sick eight year old son post...........You are beyond pathetic.
 

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So what is ALL his user names?
 
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DOHC, I seem to recall there was a different post above the so called kids one. Both the father/son used the same term: "spelling B"..which at the time, several of us picked up on.
 
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So what is ALL his user names?

V10 Cougar = offroadbandit and due to the butchering of the English language, I'm guessing they are both Chaparro.


Tim, if your checking, look up 93RangerXl4x2 and Fordman06777.
 

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