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my old F3 axle (timken) have any value?

 
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Old 01-17-2007, 11:38 AM
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my old F3 axle (timken) have any value?

so i'm still in the taking apart phase,
i'm removing the rear axle (slit-case, timken design) and the front walking beam.
both 8-lug with complete steering, brakes etc....
i believe it has 4.86 gears (as per data tag)

i suppose they could be used to convert an F1 or F2 to an 8-lug truck?
 
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The F-3 axle is probably worth about $5 for scrap unless you can find one of the few people doing a stock restoration and want the stock rear axle. The major problem with the F-3 is it most likely has the bigger brake drums and it's hard to find rims that will fit over them and still accept the stock hubcaps. The stock 17" Widow Maker rims are non-useable. Also, if you can find a modern rim that will fit you might as well change out the whole axle to a more modern axle so you can have higher gears.

The F-2 rear ends might be worth a little more because they have smaller drums they accept stock 16" rims so you can use stock hubcaps. You can also swap them into F-3s to maintain a somewhat stock configuration.
 
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When I was updating my 52 F-3 I ended up just scrapping the original axle. I'm sure it was useable, but just no market for it and I had no room to store it. I had to make room for my "new" 1969 Dana 60, pic below (old timken up front, Dana 60 in back). That was an easy swap.



Bob, as far as the brake drums go, I think sometime in 51 they changed over to the smaller diameter brake drums on the F-3's so 16in rims would fit (my truck came to me with 16in F-2 rims on it, hence why I picked up that extra 16in from you a while back for a spare)
 

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There's a fellow in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, that came on the 'barn looking for these. I responded to him 'cause I've got several sitting around and a couple more still under the donors. Turns out back in the '50s the roundy pounders used the short sides of our Timkens in pairs and mounted them to quick change center sections. He's either restoring or retro-cloning a stocker(s) and was/or still is looking for these. He was wanting to find them reasonably close to Iowa. If you want his name and stuff, private message me and I'll send it to you. Or, when he comes for mine I can mention yours. Stu
 
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Originally Posted by 52'F-3
so i'm still in the taking apart phase,
i'm removing the rear axle (slit-case, timken design) and the front walking beam.
both 8-lug with complete steering, brakes etc....
i believe it has 4.86 gears (as per data tag)

i suppose they could be used to convert an F1 or F2 to an 8-lug truck?
I gave my F-3 front axle to a local guy to make a trailer and still have the rear end sitting out behind my garage. I've been trying to give it away for a year now. Mine also had 16 inch wheels on it and they fit over the rear drums okay.
 
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thanks for replys.............i'm new to these trucks and just didn't want to send them to the scrap yard if someone could use them.....

i'm also swapping a dana 60 front 70 into my F-3.

fyi, my 52 did come with the 17" split rims....(more stuff for the scrap man )
 
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I had to make room for my "new" 1969 Dana 60, pic below (old timken up front, Dana 60 in back).
"New" 1969, i like that.....

i was telling a friend i'm planning to replace the complete wiring harness with a new one out of a 78 F150. he looked at me and said "using a 28 year old wiring harness is crazy enough, but don't call in new".
 
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Originally Posted by 52'F-3
"New" 1969, i like that.....

Whats the funniest about it, what I'm refering to as a "new" axle is still 9 years older than I am ( and my truck has 26 years on me). Its funny that I concider a 1969 axle a modern upgrade
 
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Hmmmmm.... I'm nine years older than your axle, and my truck only has four years' seniority on me. As for "new" parts, I've been seriously considering updating my truck's drum brakes to more modern drum brakes, once I locate a Dana 60 for the back. Somehow those single-piston wheel cylinders on the front just don't seem like that good an idea.
 
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Unless you absolutely have to get rid of it, I would hang on to the original F3 rear end. There are some other uses for it. When I was a kid back in Virginia, there was and old machinist/Ford Mecahnic who used Ford 9" rear ends to make winches for the local oysterboats. Apparently they worked great because nearly every waterman in the Hapton Roads area had one on their boat. With a little imagination, I'm sure you could come up with some sort of good use for a stout differential like that. I just hate to see them being thrown away if there is nothing wrong with them..
 
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Unless you absolutely have to get rid of it, I would hang on to the original F3 rear end..
I hate to see them scrapped too which is why I still have mine sitting behind my garage. I don't know how long I'll keep it but it won't be forever...
 
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I wouldn't call these axles stout...
 
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Stronger than the 1/2 ton rear ends by a long shot. I'm not aware of these having a history of breaking. Perhaps I'm wrong. The only reason I've seen for replacing them is the gear ratio is to high. Never becasue they broke.
 
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I hate to see them scrapped too which is why I still have mine sitting behind my garage. I don't know how long I'll keep it but it won't be forever...
i'm pretty sure that what will happen to it, i have a bunch of autoparts i my shed and behind (and in) garage.
this is the only Timken design i have so it would nice for the "collection"...
 
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Well it's stronger than the 48-early 51 Spicer 41 axles but not the 51-56 Dana 44.

These Timkens were known for blowing the rear pinion bearing which took out the ring gear and half of the the axle housing. The one on my 1st M-3 was shot, my second M-3 had the pinion side replaced from a newer truck in it's life. If you search the web for the correct name for this axle, you will find a couple of guys with old *****'s trucks with the semi floater version that have blown the pinion gear. Note to mention this thing uses non standard pinion bearings.

Here's a link to some info about the Timken axles.
http://www.public.asu.edu/~grover/******/timken.html
 

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