Manual Choke Question
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From: Eagan, MN
Manual Choke Question
Hi,
I recently had my carb "rebuilt" and realized I do not have a clue where the manual choke cable attaches to the carb. After I did some thinking I realized that it never was connected when I bought the truck. This wasn't a big deal in the summer but now that it is 15 degrees when I try to start the truck it becomes quite the hassle. So I was hoping that someone could tell me where the cable attaches. I took some pictures of my carburetor and hopefully they will show the proper location for it to attach.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jake
Pic1
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0634.jpg
Pic2
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0633.jpg
Pic3
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0632.jpg
I recently had my carb "rebuilt" and realized I do not have a clue where the manual choke cable attaches to the carb. After I did some thinking I realized that it never was connected when I bought the truck. This wasn't a big deal in the summer but now that it is 15 degrees when I try to start the truck it becomes quite the hassle. So I was hoping that someone could tell me where the cable attaches. I took some pictures of my carburetor and hopefully they will show the proper location for it to attach.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Jake
Pic1
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0634.jpg
Pic2
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0633.jpg
Pic3
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/101_0632.jpg
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From: Creedmoor, North Carolina
Jake, I am sorry to have to inform you that you will be unable to use the choke cable in your truck.
You carb has an electric choke. It is the black round disc looking thingie on the passenger side of the carb. It should have two spade connectors on it one with a + beside of it and the other a - beside of it.
The - is for the ground and the + is from a wire connected through the ignition switch.
One of our more astute members here can direct you to the proper wire to use for the +.
John
You carb has an electric choke. It is the black round disc looking thingie on the passenger side of the carb. It should have two spade connectors on it one with a + beside of it and the other a - beside of it.
The - is for the ground and the + is from a wire connected through the ignition switch.
One of our more astute members here can direct you to the proper wire to use for the +.
John
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Thanks, I was kind of wondering about the possibility of not having a manual choke after I spent a hour or so last night trying to find a way to hook up the cable to something.
If anyone has any advice on how to hook up the automatic choke I will really appreciate it. Thanks and I would be happy to answer any questions/take more pictures.
Thanks Again,
Jake
If anyone has any advice on how to hook up the automatic choke I will really appreciate it. Thanks and I would be happy to answer any questions/take more pictures.
Thanks Again,
Jake
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I don't see a electric conection on the side, so it would be a stock type of automatic choke. On the ones that I have had in the past, there is a fitting hook up on the back side, pointing slitely down, a tube ran from there down the a hole in the exhaust manifoid on the passenger side. To ajust you loosen the 3 screws around the black round piece and turn it to lean or enrich. The rod that is sticking up from teh choke should be hooked the the choke butterfly.
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Thanks for the help bertha66 and jowilker,
I snapped some more pictures and hopefully they will show the two holes you are talking about. If these are the correct holes could somebody verify this and if not could someone point me towards the correct holes. For the tube between the holes can I just buy a length of vacuum line or is a special type of tube required?
Thanks for the help
Pic1 (carb)
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/carbpic1.jpg
Pic2 (exhaust manifold)
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/exhaustpic1.jpg
I snapped some more pictures and hopefully they will show the two holes you are talking about. If these are the correct holes could somebody verify this and if not could someone point me towards the correct holes. For the tube between the holes can I just buy a length of vacuum line or is a special type of tube required?
Thanks for the help
Pic1 (carb)
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/carbpic1.jpg
Pic2 (exhaust manifold)
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/wheressinatra/exhaustpic1.jpg
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So if I were to call NAPA would they have a proper sized, pre bent piece of steel line available, or do I have to go through a Ford parts dealer? Or, can I buy a length of this steel line and just bend it to size?
Lastly, do you just jam it down the holes or does it attach somehow?
Thanks.
Lastly, do you just jam it down the holes or does it attach somehow?
Thanks.
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I do not know if you can get that from a parts house or not, but you should be able to fit one yourself, I think that a 1/8 steel line with a brass feiral and fitting. It does just press into the hole in the manifoil.
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Here is a pic of an electric vacuum heated choke installed on a 2v.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...138531&width=0
The choke housing itself is grounded through the choke housing hold down ring.
The power to the choke comes from the STATOR connection on the Alternator as it need power only when the engine is RUNNING otherwise the choke coil would fry from too much/too long voltage.
If you prefer to install a manual choke the cable connects to the choke linkage with a cable Screw/Nut.
Now the same photo....only the heat choke tube is pointed out.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...138532&width=0
Some people use stainless brake line bent into shape.
The key here is the Inset of the tube into the EXH. manifold is smaller than the tube itself.
Aupt parts store sell Generic Heat Tube Lits. Look for them hanging in the H.E.L.P. section of parts.
You can buy Copper Tubing that will work in this application as well.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...138531&width=0
The choke housing itself is grounded through the choke housing hold down ring.
The power to the choke comes from the STATOR connection on the Alternator as it need power only when the engine is RUNNING otherwise the choke coil would fry from too much/too long voltage.
If you prefer to install a manual choke the cable connects to the choke linkage with a cable Screw/Nut.
Now the same photo....only the heat choke tube is pointed out.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...138532&width=0
Some people use stainless brake line bent into shape.
The key here is the Inset of the tube into the EXH. manifold is smaller than the tube itself.
Aupt parts store sell Generic Heat Tube Lits. Look for them hanging in the H.E.L.P. section of parts.
You can buy Copper Tubing that will work in this application as well.
Last edited by Mil1ion; Jan 9, 2007 at 05:12 PM.
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I know, I was pointing out the electric choke.
Even electric chokes have heated vacuum assist.
Here is the One his probably has .....only this is of a 4v.
in this case ...Same thing though.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...134518&width=0
Even electric chokes have heated vacuum assist.
Here is the One his probably has .....only this is of a 4v.
in this case ...Same thing though.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...134518&width=0
Last edited by Mil1ion; Jan 9, 2007 at 05:27 PM.
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Hey,
I went out bought some steel line and a fitting and made what it sounded like was being described. Unfortunately I do not notice this changing anything when trying to start my truck. I will mess with the choke spring thing (round black disc w/ Lean written on it) when my truck's engine is cold again (all that trying to start warmed it up). Any other advice? Would be nice to get this working so I can stop waking up neighbors every morning with my nursing of the gas pedal until the engine decides to continue idleing on it's own.
I posted some pics of the choke device and if anyone sees any flaws in it please tell me so I can fix it.
Thanks for pointing out the trans dipstick too.
Thanks,
Jake
Photo 1
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0640.jpg
Photo 2
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0641.jpg
Photo3
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0642.jpg
I went out bought some steel line and a fitting and made what it sounded like was being described. Unfortunately I do not notice this changing anything when trying to start my truck. I will mess with the choke spring thing (round black disc w/ Lean written on it) when my truck's engine is cold again (all that trying to start warmed it up). Any other advice? Would be nice to get this working so I can stop waking up neighbors every morning with my nursing of the gas pedal until the engine decides to continue idleing on it's own.
I posted some pics of the choke device and if anyone sees any flaws in it please tell me so I can fix it.
Thanks for pointing out the trans dipstick too.
Thanks,
Jake
Photo 1
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0640.jpg
Photo 2
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0641.jpg
Photo3
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/101_0642.jpg
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Jake -
If you continue to have problems, you might want to see if an all-electric choke conversion kit is available. Or, disconnect the rod from the choke housing to the choke plate and hook up your manual cable (trouble-free, but you gotta remember to push the **** in).
Steve
If you continue to have problems, you might want to see if an all-electric choke conversion kit is available. Or, disconnect the rod from the choke housing to the choke plate and hook up your manual cable (trouble-free, but you gotta remember to push the **** in).
Steve
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I used to have an automatic-to-manual choke conversion around here somewhere that simply replaced the round plastic disc with one with a rod through the center with a choke cable connection and a cable holder bracket...sort of like this:
This might be a way for you to go if you want to stay with manual choke. As for your setup on the truck now, with the engine cold and the throttle slightly cracked open (to avoid any interference with the fast idle cam) loosen the hold-down screws on the black plastic choke housing and turn it toward rich till the choke is just fully closed, then tighten the screws.
Then I'd shorten up the tube and insulate it. It might be losing too much heat by the time it makes it clear up to the carb, and you need that heat to work on the spring inside the plastic housing and pull the choke open as the engine warms up.
This might be a way for you to go if you want to stay with manual choke. As for your setup on the truck now, with the engine cold and the throttle slightly cracked open (to avoid any interference with the fast idle cam) loosen the hold-down screws on the black plastic choke housing and turn it toward rich till the choke is just fully closed, then tighten the screws.
Then I'd shorten up the tube and insulate it. It might be losing too much heat by the time it makes it clear up to the carb, and you need that heat to work on the spring inside the plastic housing and pull the choke open as the engine warms up.